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1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by Jednowlosy, Apr 26, 2008.

  1. Jednowlosy

    Jednowlosy IncGamers Member

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    1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    I transformed my hammerdin into a smiter with a few cheap items and 1 point into fanaticism (I have 2 spare points anyway) so he can do ubers easily (not that he can't do it with hammers - he can, although mephisto is a bit too tricky without a handful of 40life pcombs and 75 resis on mephi's aura ~~).

    The stuff I swap:

    Shako -> umed guillame's face
    SoJ -> Raven
    Hoto -> heaven's light
    Enigma -> CoH wyrmhide
    Dex fcr ring -> 20 str fcr ring with resis (28 cold 12 light 7 rest)
    Magefists -> Draculs

    With an extra 11% light res charm, I get like 44% light resistance on meph's aura.. and here comes the tricky part.. should I put two 15 all resist jewels to my heaven's light to reach the max 75% resis under meph's aura, or is it not obligatory? I have little experience with one point smiters, and don't forget it's still a hammerdin doing a smiter's job :p FOr example I smite with sacred targe [email protected] spirit and keep arach instead of getting a proper smiter belt :rolleyes:

    Do I need it to feel comfortable? I don't like dying to ubers and I never do, so I don't want to get nuked by meph's charged bolts.

    Or maybe I should leave one pcomb skiller home and simply put 30light res GC in so I can double-shael the heaven's light instead..
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    What shield do you use? I suggest a high-resist paladin shield, like HoZ or, maybe, even Sanctuary.

    Get Grief, assuming you have enough dough. Of course, putting a point in Fanat helps as well.

    Use Gore Riders, to get 50% CB in combination with Guillaume's.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    HEaven's light has 33% cb, so I have 66% in total. I don't think gore riders are worth it with so much CB already - I'd lose a lot of life/dex from taking off my wws.

    I use spirit sacred targe with [email protected] It tops HoZ in resistances (80% all, except fire, which uber meph doesn't use anyway).
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Well, if you see it this way.. Socket with 2 Shael's then. You need to have FAST smite, and with a Scepter, you need a decent amount of IAS. I'd use Grief, personally, but your choice...
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    If you use Heaven's Light, two shaels in it is pretty much a must.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    I concur.

    10 chars


     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Tested it on plugy. Grief in fact kills ubers slower than heaven's light - less crushing blow, despite MUCH MUCH higher damage. Besides, it's not a smiter - it's a hammerdin with an antiuber gear. I don't care for damage, I want the damage done.

    I will socket heaven's light with shaels then, and use 27% lres charm instead of one pcombs.


     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Grief lets you leech more, though. If your leech is enough with heaven's light, then by all means go for it.

    Anyways, just remember 2 things:
    1) Don't trade in the SP forum here if you are testing with plug Y.
    2) The ubers are a lot easier with plug Y, as there are no minions.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    true. I always clear the uber level myself with hammers on bnet, but mephisto is too hard without any leech. The other ubers are weaklings.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    You probably thought of this but you could boost your resists on the shield to over 110 all, with a 4 OS PDiam, and around 34-40 res all pally shield. You could use this only against mephisto, and then switch back to your Spirit.

    What aura were u using if not Fanaticism?
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Salvation or concentration.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Then i guess the easiest thing would be to use salvation for Mephisto. The damage due to concentration is probably worth replacing with Salvation, (at least until u get a better resist shield).
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Well, the resists are no longer any problem. Found out I don't need them maxed against mephi. Can kill him comfortably with 0 resis (on his aura) or so. Eventually, I have a couple of 11lres charms, but I don't need them tbh, I learned it today, when I forgot to equip them and still killed the ubers without a slightest problem.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    While I've never been to Uber trist yet with any char, I am a bit surprised regarding your findings. Most if not all guides suggest a total of 250 - 300 resist all, before you venture in Uber trist. I guess I'll have to try it myself...
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    It's only your light resist that actually matters, and if you have wisp and/or t-god, that doesn't matter as well.



     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Thanks, good to know!


     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Not only light. You don't wanna get hit by Meph's Blizzard with negative cold res. I've seen way too many deaths to it.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    I don't believe I have ever seen that when I uber, but maybe it's because I never hid behind a house or something like that. (which causes Meph to cast blizzard, at least the normal one anyways)

    Still, to be safe, I swap in a Kira's when I uber with my hammerdin.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    Mephi rarely uses his blizzard, tbh. I guess it's more of long range attack. Can't remember when he hit me last time with it when I stood close.
     
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    Re: 1pt hammer->smiter - resistances?

    I plan to use Kira's anyway, since I don't have any other decent replacement (such as Guillaume's of CoA). My CB will have to come from other sources... weap, Gores, Blood Gloves (I have a 9% pair). It's still a long way though, I need to party with the smiter to get there.

    I do have another question though... how do you deal with the minions? Use high level zeal synergised with sacrifice, or lower level zeal with ITD?
    would it also be useful to have a decent weapon on switch with mana steal and use vengeance synergised with lighting/fire/col resist, and possibly conviction (to compensate for AR)?
     

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