163 fcr BP for windys?

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eternalsunshine

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163 fcr BP for windys?

dya think with all the new r/ws its achievable without major sacrifice? this was a setup i was thinking about:

20 fcr (+2 and all the good mods) druid circlet
20 fcr druid ammy
enigma
33 fcr spirit monarch
1x fcr ring, 1 soj
arach mesh
trangs gloves
hoto (could use wizzy with dual sojs)
any boots? waterwalks for life?

obviously you wont go for max block with the spirit's horrible block rate, but the frame advantage should be significant, right?
 
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theBlackKnight

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proudfoot said:
You'll die without max block. I think it's too much of a sacrifice, myself.
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My windy went the pure vit rout, and he never got touched. I played him the correct way, aka, like a caster.
 
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eternalsunshine

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NoMercy said:
So i'm gonna go with spirit on my windy. Should i go pure vit or max block?
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it'll take you one gazillion dex to get max block with spirit. i say go pure vit, and aim for 163 fcr and write back how that goes :xmad:
 
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Gore_Nutling

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Block isn't always necessary. When I am dueling someone that I couldn't beat without max block and DR, though, I use SS. However, Spirit is my favored shield to duel casters. By comparison, in a Caster VS Caster duel, SS becomes almost worthless.
 
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Tor

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only use block when necessary


same in melee...whats the point of blocking vs casters/smiters? get a higher powered range 5 and go have soem fun ^^
 
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Darknicrofia

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eternalsunshine said:
dya think with all the new r/ws its achievable without major sacrifice? this was a setup i was thinking about:

20 fcr (+2 and all the good mods) druid circlet
20 fcr druid ammy
enigma
33 fcr spirit monarch
1x fcr ring, 1 soj
arach mesh
trangs gloves
hoto (could use wizzy with dual sojs)
any boots? waterwalks for life?

obviously you wont go for max block with the spirit's horrible block rate, but the frame advantage should be significant, right?
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In my own opinion, after playing my druid in pubbies and private duels for quite a while, I think that the 99 fcr frame is more than enough to take care of business....true, while the extra frame makes you feel faster, I just think the sacrafice on the gear is way too much to make you still make any difference in a duel, ( you can get what, maybe 5.5k tornado at most? And almost no block or life)
 
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Valinorean

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With Spirit, you'd need 336 DEX to reach the maximum block, yikes. With 10% Block amulet 275, and with 10% block amulet+Twitchtroe, 190..

-Val

Edit: ahh, forgot to add that the block is calculated at lvl 90.
 
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Gore_Nutling

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Going for maxed block with a Spirit is out of the question.

However, I believe that reaching an extra cast breakpoint can be a huge difference for wind druids. Just take a look at duels between 125% FCR necros and 200% FCR sorcs... The sorcs have the advantage although the Necro has better and more varied attacks, and this is all due to the extra FCR. And sorcs do have to make a sacrifice to get that much FCR.

With a good setup, you wouldn't lose out too many skill points and keep Tornado damage over 6k. I don't see why your life total should suffer either.
 
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Gotcha

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eternalsunshine said:
it'll take you one gazillion dex to get max block with spirit. i say go pure vit, and aim for 163 fcr and write back how that goes :xmad:
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I made a 163% FCR windy with the spirit shield. There was a huge drawback. Lvl'd him to 94 then put items on. I went max block and it took something like 340 into dex to max block (a huge amount). When I was all setup my life was only in the upper 2000's close to 3k with CTA and oak and 6 close to 40 life/skill charms and 4 12% FHR ones and all smalls with 20/and a 10-11 to a res (6) and 3 with res and FHR.

I did cast faster and it was interesting yet 2 things became very apparent.

1) Life was very low and even with oak and Max block it was not worth the additional 1 frame.

2) and this is very important for a windy to remember since I now appreciate it more. You will need 50% PDR, without it you will feel the hits and with spirit you are not going to get it.

SO I DELETED MY NEW WINDY and now I am making a new uber windy since I have some amazing FCR/19 str/80 mana rings and other stuff I did not have before.

Final thoughts: Don't be depressed if your windy does not shine like you were hoping when going 163% FCR.

Now I just have to decide if I want to make my first non block/all vita windy or stay with the conventional block since I am mainly PVP.

Does anyone know what the ave. life # diff is from max block to pure vita on a build (with a 6 CTA). I have always gone block yet I keep thinking that hardly anyone can get close and live, it is just the casters that pose the real problem so is it worth it anymore for PVP to go max block. Anyone + and - and what is my life diff going to be?
 
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nSin

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You only use this setup against necros, hammerdins, or sorcs when the FCR actually does make a difference. When you're fighting a barb a whirlwind sin a charge paladin bowazon or something alike, you obviously dont need that extra fcr.

So going for max block with spirit is not needed, just use your usual setup but switch gear? You dont need block, or dr against casters anyway.
 
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Linkin

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i play such a druid, he is going godly :clap:
spirit is godly vs 125fc necs and fast sorcs -.-

€dit
he is doing 6.4k dam tornado
5.5k life
 
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Gotcha

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Linkin said:
i play such a druid, he is going godly :clap:
spirit is godly vs 125fc necs and fast sorcs -.-

€dit
he is doing 6.4k dam tornado
5.5k life
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Did you go all vita (every point)? My first attempt was block with spirit when it first came out and I was very unhappy hehe way to many points in dex. My new one will go all vita hopefully.

Do you notice a diff in damage with spirit having such high life and no max PDR or do you switch when needed to a SS?

Also are you using whiz or hoto? I am guessing hoto if you are getting 6.4 k to damage.
 
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Linkin

Banned
i wear 2 different types of equipment - depends on enemy
jalala, ss, +2 dru 19 fc amu +2*bk with 99 fhr
vs any kind of melee

+2 20 fc circle, +2 dru 19 fc amu +fc ring 20 str 30 fire res + eth spirit 35 fc monarch
vs any kind of mage ^

always hoto - wizard is for low cost -.- not in my case^^
 
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