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100k poison nova damage

Discussion in 'Necromancer' started by vintagejp, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. vintagejp

    vintagejp IncGamers Member

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    100k poison nova damage

    I've heard through word of mouth that it is possible to get a 100k poison nova...is this an exageration or the truth? what skills/equipment would enable me to get such a high damage?
     
  2. Mad Mantis

    Mad Mantis D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator

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    Just by pumping Skill points into Nova and the synergies you would need the following set-up:

    PDagger: 20
    PExplosion: 20
    PNova: 470

    If you factor in gear, things start to change. It then becomes less, but still way above 100.
     
  3. JoJeck

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    I think some people make assumptions about the effects of Lower Resist and items that give negative poison resists (capped at -100%) together with a very large number of plus skill items, Bramble, facet jewels and trang gloves, 10 P&B charms plus anni to get that sort of damage. I'm still not sure that its possible to get quite that high for poison nova, although I believe 30 K is possible as there were some posts about it before the forum had its hic-cup.
     
  4. Necrochild313

    Necrochild313 IncGamers Member

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    There was once a necro that was in a game of mine who was bragging about his 1k damage bone spirit.


    He was level 32.


    I don't think so.

    Ah...the tall tales of battle.net still flourish
     
  5. belth

    belth IncGamers Member

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    Let's see, 2 ways to get very high Poison damage, using 3 TO pieces and not using 3 pieces:

    1) No TO pieces, except gloves:

    Skills:
    +3 P&B ammy
    +2 SoJ's or BK's
    +1 Arachnid
    +3 P&B circlet
    +3 P&B totem
    +1 Annihilus
    +10 P&B gc's
    +4 Death's Web
    a total of +27 to P&B, that's sweet. slvl47 Poison nova, maxed synergies: 7312-7484 over 2 seconds.

    Well, since we're using a perfect Bramble, TO gloves and 5 perfect poison facets, we get +100% Poison skill damage. That's 200%*~7.3k, bringing us to ~14.7k damage. For clarification, Death's Web: 1 facet, circlet with 2, totem with 2.

    Still more, the -resists% stuff. 5 facets gives us -25%, LR gives us -65% (hypothetical) and Death's Web -50%. That's -140%, but AFAIK -100 resist is as low as you can go. That'll double our damage, giving us 29k nova. Without the cap, around 35.5k nova.

    2) The "Trang-Oul's way", using wing/gloves/belt:

    Skills:
    +3 P&B ammy
    +2 SoJ's or BK's
    +3 P&B circlet
    +2 TO wing
    +1 Annihilus
    +10 P&B gc's
    +4 Death's Web
    a total of +25 to P&B, a bit less than 1). slvl45 Poison nova, maxed synergies: 6875-7046 over 2 seconds.

    The +Poison skill damage % is the same as before, except we'll have 1 facet less due to a set item. 95% bonus then, pushing the nova to ~13.5k damage.

    -resists%: 4 facets gives -20%, TO wing gives -25%, Death's Web gives -50% and -65% from LR. -160% resists and the cap kicks in again - ~27k nova. Without the cap, a bit over 35k nova.

    Now, I'm 100% sure there's atleast a couple mistakes in my calculations, but I'm extremely confident that even my faulty calculations prove 100k nova isn't possible under any circumstances.

    As far as the equipment goes, I doubt the necro would have anywhere near decent resists, making it unviable.
     
  6. somewhatdamaged99

    somewhatdamaged99 IncGamers Member

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    I was under the impression that 100k nova is in no way shape or form possible. Closest is about 16k without lower res, 24k with.

    Correct me if i am wrong (i would love to be!)

    I am using 47% deaths web with 4/4/ facet
    trang wing with 5/5 facet
    TO belt and gloves
    50% bramble
    10 x P and B gcs
    maras
    2 x soj

    all in all, 100k poison nova is absolutely exaggerated, and in no way at all feasible.

    somewhatdamaged (big poison nec fan!!!)
     
  7. toolthegod

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    100k nova = open bnet. :jig:
     
  8. MelFrank

    MelFrank IncGamers Member

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    +4 B/P Wand
    +2 B/P Rings
    +1 B/P Belt
    +3 B/P Helm
    +3 B/P Amulet
    +3 B/P Head
    +10 B/P Charms
    +1 B/P Annihilus

    +27 B/P skills, slvl47 Poison Nova

    +25% GLoves
    +50% Bramble
    +15% 3x 5/5 Facets

    slvl47 Poison Nova = 7312-7484 over 2 seconds
    +90% Poison Skill damage = 13892-14219 over 2 seconds
    -100% Resists = 27784-28439 over 2 seconds

    Mel
     
  9. somewhatdamaged99

    somewhatdamaged99 IncGamers Member

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    Oh i am also using crown of ages with 2 x 5/5 poison facets as well.. forgot to mention
     
  10. theBlackKnight

    theBlackKnight IncGamers Member

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    or you could think like a 1337 player and say

    trang gloves
    2 sojs
    3 p &b amu
    arachnids
    +3 psn nova white wand
    +3 p&b head with +3 psn nova ( is this possible? i could have sworn i saw one)
    perfect bramble
    10 p&b skillers
    1 annihilus
    +3 p & b circlet circlet /w p facet

    that should come to 26 p &b skills, 29 to psn nova, and ~90% psn damage ( 50 from bramble, 25 from trangs, 15 from facets in the head, and the circlet ) and -60 resists from lower resists, that would be more wouldnt it?
     
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    somewhatdamaged99 IncGamers Member

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    Bramble is +50% poison damage (if lucky like me lol), 3 x trang is -25% enemies POISON RES which works differently i think.

    All in all, deaths web is the ONLY way to go for max poison nova damage, anything else is not as good, no matter how awesome the white wand

    Somewhatdamaged
     
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    still, 100k PN = open bnet. :jig:
     
  13. Slayer193

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    Maybe 50k, but 100k? yeah right.
     
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    wouldn't be that hard imaging a inv full of sc that gave +5 to all skills
     
  15. Beatboxer

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    Original poster, your freind might still be thinking of the beta version of Bramble...100k might might have possible with that.:)
     
  16. Fearox

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    I think someone has mixed up the poison nova damage with the poison or plague javelin on amazons. It's quite easy to get that kind of damage. But it's over 19,6 seconds or something like that.
     

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