100k poison nova damage

vintagejp

Diabloii.Net Member
100k poison nova damage

I've heard through word of mouth that it is possible to get a 100k poison nova...is this an exageration or the truth? what skills/equipment would enable me to get such a high damage?
 

Mad Mantis

D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator
Just by pumping Skill points into Nova and the synergies you would need the following set-up:

PDagger: 20
PExplosion: 20
PNova: 470

If you factor in gear, things start to change. It then becomes less, but still way above 100.
 

JoJeck

Diabloii.Net Member
I think some people make assumptions about the effects of Lower Resist and items that give negative poison resists (capped at -100%) together with a very large number of plus skill items, Bramble, facet jewels and trang gloves, 10 P&B charms plus anni to get that sort of damage. I'm still not sure that its possible to get quite that high for poison nova, although I believe 30 K is possible as there were some posts about it before the forum had its hic-cup.
 

Necrochild313

Diabloii.Net Member
There was once a necro that was in a game of mine who was bragging about his 1k damage bone spirit.


He was level 32.


I don't think so.

Ah...the tall tales of battle.net still flourish
 

belth

Diabloii.Net Member
Let's see, 2 ways to get very high Poison damage, using 3 TO pieces and not using 3 pieces:

1) No TO pieces, except gloves:

Skills:
+3 P&B ammy
+2 SoJ's or BK's
+1 Arachnid
+3 P&B circlet
+3 P&B totem
+1 Annihilus
+10 P&B gc's
+4 Death's Web
a total of +27 to P&B, that's sweet. slvl47 Poison nova, maxed synergies: 7312-7484 over 2 seconds.

Well, since we're using a perfect Bramble, TO gloves and 5 perfect poison facets, we get +100% Poison skill damage. That's 200%*~7.3k, bringing us to ~14.7k damage. For clarification, Death's Web: 1 facet, circlet with 2, totem with 2.

Still more, the -resists% stuff. 5 facets gives us -25%, LR gives us -65% (hypothetical) and Death's Web -50%. That's -140%, but AFAIK -100 resist is as low as you can go. That'll double our damage, giving us 29k nova. Without the cap, around 35.5k nova.

2) The "Trang-Oul's way", using wing/gloves/belt:

Skills:
+3 P&B ammy
+2 SoJ's or BK's
+3 P&B circlet
+2 TO wing
+1 Annihilus
+10 P&B gc's
+4 Death's Web
a total of +25 to P&B, a bit less than 1). slvl45 Poison nova, maxed synergies: 6875-7046 over 2 seconds.

The +Poison skill damage % is the same as before, except we'll have 1 facet less due to a set item. 95% bonus then, pushing the nova to ~13.5k damage.

-resists%: 4 facets gives -20%, TO wing gives -25%, Death's Web gives -50% and -65% from LR. -160% resists and the cap kicks in again - ~27k nova. Without the cap, a bit over 35k nova.

Now, I'm 100% sure there's atleast a couple mistakes in my calculations, but I'm extremely confident that even my faulty calculations prove 100k nova isn't possible under any circumstances.

As far as the equipment goes, I doubt the necro would have anywhere near decent resists, making it unviable.
 

somewhatdamaged99

Diabloii.Net Member
belth said:
Let's see, 2 ways to get very high Poison damage, using 3 TO pieces and not using 3 pieces:

1) No TO pieces, except gloves:

Skills:
+3 P&B ammy
+2 SoJ's or BK's
+1 Arachnid
+3 P&B circlet
+3 P&B totem
+1 Annihilus
+10 P&B gc's
+4 Death's Web
a total of +27 to P&B, that's sweet. slvl47 Poison nova, maxed synergies: 7312-7484 over 2 seconds.

Well, since we're using a perfect Bramble, TO gloves and 5 perfect poison facets, we get +100% Poison skill damage. That's 200%*~7.3k, bringing us to ~14.7k damage. For clarification, Death's Web: 1 facet, circlet with 2, totem with 2.

Still more, the -resists% stuff. 5 facets gives us -25%, LR gives us -65% (hypothetical) and Death's Web -50%. That's -140%, but AFAIK -100 resist is as low as you can go. That'll double our damage, giving us 29k nova. Without the cap, around 35.5k nova.

2) The "Trang-Oul's way", using wing/gloves/belt:

Skills:
+3 P&B ammy
+2 SoJ's or BK's
+3 P&B circlet
+2 TO wing
+1 Annihilus
+10 P&B gc's
+4 Death's Web
a total of +25 to P&B, a bit less than 1). slvl45 Poison nova, maxed synergies: 6875-7046 over 2 seconds.

The +Poison skill damage % is the same as before, except we'll have 1 facet less due to a set item. 95% bonus then, pushing the nova to ~13.5k damage.

-resists%: 4 facets gives -20%, TO wing gives -25%, Death's Web gives -50% and -65% from LR. -160% resists and the cap kicks in again - ~27k nova. Without the cap, a bit over 35k nova.

Now, I'm 100% sure there's atleast a couple mistakes in my calculations, but I'm extremely confident that even my faulty calculations prove 100k nova isn't possible under any circumstances.

As far as the equipment goes, I doubt the necro would have anywhere near decent resists, making it unviable.

I was under the impression that 100k nova is in no way shape or form possible. Closest is about 16k without lower res, 24k with.

Correct me if i am wrong (i would love to be!)

I am using 47% deaths web with 4/4/ facet
trang wing with 5/5 facet
TO belt and gloves
50% bramble
10 x P and B gcs
maras
2 x soj

all in all, 100k poison nova is absolutely exaggerated, and in no way at all feasible.

somewhatdamaged (big poison nec fan!!!)
 

MelFrank

Diabloii.Net Member
+4 B/P Wand
+2 B/P Rings
+1 B/P Belt
+3 B/P Helm
+3 B/P Amulet
+3 B/P Head
+10 B/P Charms
+1 B/P Annihilus

+27 B/P skills, slvl47 Poison Nova

+25% GLoves
+50% Bramble
+15% 3x 5/5 Facets

slvl47 Poison Nova = 7312-7484 over 2 seconds
+90% Poison Skill damage = 13892-14219 over 2 seconds
-100% Resists = 27784-28439 over 2 seconds

Mel
 

somewhatdamaged99

Diabloii.Net Member
MelFrank said:
+4 B/P Wand
+2 B/P Rings
+1 B/P Belt
+3 B/P Helm
+3 B/P Amulet
+3 B/P Head
+10 B/P Charms
+1 B/P Annihilus

+27 B/P skills, slvl47 Poison Nova

+25% GLoves
+50% Bramble
+15% 3x 5/5 Facets

slvl47 Poison Nova = 7312-7484 over 2 seconds
+90% Poison Skill damage = 13892-14219 over 2 seconds
-100% Resists = 27784-28439 over 2 seconds

Mel
Oh i am also using crown of ages with 2 x 5/5 poison facets as well.. forgot to mention
 

theBlackKnight

Diabloii.Net Member
or you could think like a 1337 player and say

trang gloves
2 sojs
3 p &b amu
arachnids
+3 psn nova white wand
+3 p&b head with +3 psn nova ( is this possible? i could have sworn i saw one)
perfect bramble
10 p&b skillers
1 annihilus
+3 p & b circlet circlet /w p facet

that should come to 26 p &b skills, 29 to psn nova, and ~90% psn damage ( 50 from bramble, 25 from trangs, 15 from facets in the head, and the circlet ) and -60 resists from lower resists, that would be more wouldnt it?
 

somewhatdamaged99

Diabloii.Net Member
theBlackKnight said:
or you could think like a 1337 player and say

trang gloves
2 sojs
3 p &b amu
arachnids
+3 psn nova white wand
+3 p&b head with +3 psn nova ( is this possible? i could have sworn i saw one)
perfect bramble
10 p&b skillers
1 annihilus
+3 p & b circlet circlet /w p facet

that should come to 26 p &b skills, 29 to psn nova, and ~90% psn damage ( 50 from bramble, 25 from trangs, 15 from facets in the head, and the circlet ) and -60 resists from lower resists, that would be more wouldnt it?

Bramble is +50% poison damage (if lucky like me lol), 3 x trang is -25% enemies POISON RES which works differently i think.

All in all, deaths web is the ONLY way to go for max poison nova damage, anything else is not as good, no matter how awesome the white wand

Somewhatdamaged
 

Beatboxer

Member
Original poster, your freind might still be thinking of the beta version of Bramble...100k might might have possible with that.:)
 

Fearox

Diabloii.Net Member
I think someone has mixed up the poison nova damage with the poison or plague javelin on amazons. It's quite easy to get that kind of damage. But it's over 19,6 seconds or something like that.
 
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