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100 Pit Runs @ 562% MF, Results and Analysis

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  1. MithrandirX

    MithrandirX IncGamers Member

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    100 Pit Runs @ 562% MF, Results and Analysis

    There have been quite a few of these threads posted lately, so I thought I would post my own pit findings with a little analysis to go with them. Here are the basic facts: I did 100 pit runs with my level 83 pure strafeazon, Marabou_Muddler, (she was 87 by the time I was done). I have 562% personal MF (375% from gear + 187% in charms.) My merc, Gulzar, has 206% MF on his own, and I let him kill many of the champions and unique monsters. The game plan was to wayport to the Outer Cloister, and then run to the pits, clearing as I went. Then I would do a COMPLETE sweep of level one before going down to level two and doing the same. I left the “uber chest†until last. (more on that later).

    Now, I have noticed that EVERYONE seems to be a lot luckier than me in the pits. This is not a complaint, but just a statement. A previous poster claims to have found a shako and a stormshield in 10 runs. :scratch: Now, I’m not saying that they are lying, but that they are just extremely lucky. It’s been my experience (closing in on 2000 pit / multi-boss mf runs since patch) that the secret to MFing in the pits is patience and perserverance. In these 100 runs, I definitely found some decent gear (IK Armor, Ist, and 3 rainbow facets, for example) but the pits are not exactly the super-unique playground many have made them out to be. The fact is that MF is hard work; you can’t expect to spend an hour at it and come out with a vex rune or a Windforce. Anyway, here are my findings.

    Here are the basic statistics:
    Rares: 305 total found, averaging 3.05 per run.

    Sets: 49 total pieces found, averaging .49 per run.
    Best set piece found: IK Armor (1)
    Most common set pieces: Berserker hatchet (3), Sigon’s Guard (2), Tancred’s Skull (2)

    Uniques: 56 total found, averaging .56 per run.
    Best Uniques found: SOJ (1), Shako (1), Eaglehorn (1), Rainbow Facets (3)
    Elite Uniques: 7 total found, averaging .07 per run and constituting .140 of total uniques.
    Most common uniques: Kinemil’s Awl (3), Rainbow Facet: (3)

    Runes: 57 total found, averageing .57 per run.
    Best runes found : Ist (1), Lo (1), Pul (2), Dol (1) Amn (2)

    The “Uber-Chest:â€
    This piece of crap did not provide me with a single rare, set or unique item in 100 runs. It did cough up one Nef rune. I don’t know why I bother with it.

    Complete Findings:
    1. Scalper, Tal
    2. Isenhart’s Lightbrand, Natalya’s Shadow
    3. Tancred’s Skull (OC), Athena’s Wrath (OC), Heart Carver
    4. Hawkmail, El
    5. Wolfhowl, Treads of Cthon, Berserker’s Hatchet
    6. Kinemil’s Awl
    7. Bonesnap
    8. NOTHING
    9. Haemosou’s Adamant
    10. Tir
    11. Endlesshail
    12. Cathan’s Mesh
    13. Ith (TH), Ral, El
    14. NOTHING
    15. Vidala’s Barb, 3 Socket Archon
    16. Griswold’s Edge
    17. Hwannin’s Bill
    18. Immortal King’s Helm, Magefist
    19. Stone of Jordan (TH), 3 Socket Superior Dusk Shroud
    20. El
    21. NOTHING
    22. Undead Crown
    23. Dwarf Star (TH), Duskdeep (TH)
    24. Langer Briser
    25. Angelic Mantle
    26. Hellslayer (Ethereal)
    27. 4 Socket Archon, Death’s Touch
    28.NOTHING
    29. El, Immortal King’s Maul
    30. Infernal Sign (OC), Ith (TH)
    31.Eld (TH), Eaglehorn
    32. El, Dragonscale
    33. Berserker Hatchet (TH), Venom Ward
    34. Kinemil’s Awl (TH), Rakescar, Nef
    35. Rite of Passage (TH), El, Eth, Kinemil’s Awl
    36. NOTHING
    37. Nef, Stormstrike
    38. Boneslayer Blade, Artic Binding, Tir, Ral
    39. Isenhart’s Case, Natalya’s Mark, El
    40. Tir (TH), Fal
    41. Lance of Yaggai
    42. Eld
    43. Hexfire, 3 Socket superior Dusk Shroud
    44. Bladebone (TH)
    45. 3 socket Dusk Shroud, Sigon’s Sabot
    46. Berserker’s Hatchet (TH), Nef
    47. NOTHING
    48. Laying of Hands
    49. NOTHING
    50. NOTHING
    51. Io, Thul, Bloodtree Stump, Headhunter’s Glory
    52. Howltusk (TH), Skystrike (TH) Eld, Nef, Tancred’s Crowbill
    53. Tir, Vidala’s Fetlock
    54. El
    55. Milabrega’s Diadem (OC), Sigon’s Shelter
    56. Tancred’s Weird, Culwen’s Point
    57. Blastbark
    58. Hellplague, Angelic Sickle
    59. Cleglaw’s Pincers, Angelic Halo
    60. Eth (TH), Tir
    61. Sigon’s Guard
    62. Ral
    63. NOTHING
    64. Infernal Torch (OC), El (TH), El
    65. Kinemil’s Awl, Blackbog’s Sharp, Pul
    66. Immortal King’s Soul Cage, Sigon’s Guard, Cathan’s Seal, Cleglaw’s Tooth
    67. El, Tal, Soulflay, Viperfork, Rainbow Facet
    68. Infernal Torch (TH), Shael
    69. Arctic Mitts (OC), Sander’s Taboo
    70. Tan do Li Flail
    71. NOTHING
    72. Eld (OC), Fleshrender, Nokozan Relic, Thul
    73. Amn
    74. NOTHING
    75. Rainbow Facet
    76. Lo, Tancred’s Crowbill, Minotaur, Kinemil’s Awl
    77. Ort, Gavel of Pain, 6 Socket CB
    78. Isenhart’s Parry
    79. Mavina’s Belt, Hwannin’s Armor
    80. Jade Talon, 3 Socket Great Hauberk
    81. Ist
    82. Fal, Crown of Thieves (Ethereal), Sparking Mail
    83. Tir (TH)
    84. Tancred’s Helm, Ith
    85. Kinemil’s Awl, Rakescar
    86. Tal
    87. Angelic Halo, Dol, Amn, Tir
    **. NOTHING
    89. Magefist, Shako, 6 Socket Hydra bow
    90. NOTHING
    91. Hawkmail, Thul, Cathan’s Seal
    92. Rainbow Facet
    93. El (OC), Soulfeast Tine (TH), Nef
    94. 4-Socket Sacred Armor
    95. Sigon’s Helm (TH)
    96. Tir, Pierre Tombale Couant
    97. Nef (TH), Tir
    98. Sigon’s Guard
    99. Fetid Spirnkler, Eld, Demon Machine
    100. Iratha’s Cuff, Frostburn.

    Well, there you have it. In my opinion, a pretty typical 100 runs in the pits: a couple high-mid runes, one really nice set piece and a few useful uniques. What is an average pit run? Well, it’s three or four rares, one set or unique piece, and one rune. Not a heck of a lot different from what Meph drops, in my opinion, but with much better potential. Anyway, I welcome your comments, and wish you all luck.

    :drink: Mith
     
  2. kockblocker1

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    Have you found anything worth keeping on your way to the pit? Are you just doing the Pit and no other area or bosses in your games? Reason I am asking is usually I drop by eldrich and then jump over to the Outer WP when he is done. Its quick, he is easy to kill, and him or his buddys usually activate my mercs aura quickly. Last but not least... How long do your pit runs take on average?
     
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    I salute you for your perseverance. :worship:
     
  4. Jeda

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    you call Lo a mid level rune ?!?
     
  5. d2 junkie

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    As per trading value
    My question is your runs where in one player game or multi?
    And you have the hell of a lot more patience than me :worship:
     
  6. MithrandirX

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    Yes, I do Eldtritch, Shenk and Pindle on every run, but this list it just what I found in the pits and on my way there. A complete Eldritcth/Shenk/Pindle/Pit run takes around 11 minutes, if you are pretty fast. After a couple hundred runs, you start to recognize the Pit configuratoins and can tell where the level two entrance is. That way you can plan your route. Maybe less if the pit ends up being close to the outer cloister. Also, as I noted above, I do COMPLETE pit clearances and kill everything I see and can strafe at in the Outer Cloister, Tamor, Frigid and Bloody. You could definitely hurry it along, but like i said, I like to be thorough.

    By the way, for this run (E-S-P-Pits) there is no better char than the strafer, and belive me, I have tried them all. Hammerdin is a good choice too if you can get some fcr on him.

    Mith
     
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    These were all private games on USWEST. I do MF in public games too, however, I just wanted these runs to be all the same for statistical purposes.

    Mith
     
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    Now some one should do 100 runs with 0% magic find so we can compare to see if mf really makes much of a difference.

    Note: i'm too lazy to do it.
     
  9. luuuucifer

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    What kind of equip do you use for your pit strafazon?
    I can easily get up to 400mf with a hammerdin without losing killing power, but i just can't figure out who to do it with a zon...
     
  10. MithrandirX

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    Well, here goes not sure if numbers are exactly right... diiner on the table, lol.

    Shako, 74 (ptopaz)
    Ammy, 31
    goldwrap 30
    nagel 30
    (other ring is ravenfrost)
    skullder's 132 (ptopaz)
    war travs, 46
    chance guards 32 i think

    and 25 x 7 mfsc
    and 2 x 6mfsc

    Also, I use an ohm windforce mostly. I would have isted the wf if i had known how easy the pits were. I'm not 100% positive, but i think I have about 403 dex and 9100ish AR now, and 120ish vit / 750ish life. This is more than enough for a strafer, and resists are completely irrelevant, since i never get hit. In those 100 runs, I only died once, I think, to a nasty pack of fanatacism / amp damage archers.

    The secret of the mf strafer is a huge valk and a pumped might merc. (my merc is also level 87 and uses ethereal amn spire of honor and skullder's/shako). With WF's knockback and raven's cold dam, you can really hit enemies hard and fast and prevent them from messing with your merc. Valk is completely immortal at level 26 / 26 penetrate / 5 decoy. She has over 3000 life and never gets hit. She tanks even the nastiest packs no prob.

    With a good merc and valk, the enemies NEVER come anywhere near a strafer, and she can kill SICKLY fast in the pits. One strafe will pretty much clear the screen. sometimes it takes two. My hammerdin is MUCH slower, as he doesn't have enough fcr to pump out those hammers quick enough to kill speedily, even though they do 9k or so. The pitstrafer's a build particularly suited to these kinds of mf runs (pits and shenk / eldritch / pindle) Especially since physical immunity NEVER spawns in the pits (even on unique baddies). I would not reccomend going after meph with this build though... too low resists and not enough life.

    Anyway. dinner time.

    Mith
     
  11. PikachuMolester2003

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    You did these on 8 player games, right?
     
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    Of course, there could always be the question of too much mf...
    And he said USWest, private games
     
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    He already said he did them in private games. I agree now you should do 100 runs without mf now hehe :thumbsup: grats on doin this though, least someone finds stuff there.
     
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    RUN ONE : Shadowfang,
    RUN TWO : Charm (12 mana , 3% MF)
    RUN THREE : Rite of Passage
    RUN FOUR : Infernal's Sign,
    RUN FIVE : Nothing
    RUN SIX : Small Charm (7% MF, +5 defense) -Etheral Kira's Guardian (Unique Tiara)
    RUN SEVEN : The Chieftan
    RUN EIGHT : Nightsmoke
    RUN NINE : Executioner's Justice, Sigon's Viser, Angelic Halo
    Run TEN : Nothing.
    Run ELEVEN : Undead Crown, Gleamsythe
    Run TWELVE : Spellsteel, Angelic Halo
    Run THIRTEEN : Io Rune
    Run FOURTEEN : Duskdeep
    Run FIFTEEN : Nothing
    Run SIXTEEN : Nothing
    Run SEVENTEENTH : Nothing

    Went ciap to do Pindleskin runs after that. Executioner's Justice was a great find, but that was the epiphany of my luck.
     
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    i'll post my 100 pit runs later tonight with ~300% mf.
     
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    I found an Ist in the pit and so did my brother. Ist seems to be a popular rune here.
     
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    Am I the only one with no luck in the pits? I've never found a rune even worth keeping, much less one such as ist or lo, or even pul.

    I've done rougly 40-50 pit runs in games ranging from 4-8 players (doing shenk and eldritch everytime as well) and the only 4 items I've found of note are BK Myth sword, Doombringer, 27% Death's Fathom, and Andy's Visage....

    Oh, that golden chest sucks. It seems to drop uniques in spurts. Of those 40-50 pit runs I've done, 2 times has anything not white or not blue dropped. Once, 3 uniques dropped, the other time 2 uniques...

    Enh, odd, I have like 400 mf...

    I'd post results, except that I do my runs in random public games, so the number of players varies, thus leading to not very consistant data....

    Edit: Oh I just wanted to add, of those 4 items I found, 2 are from Eldritch (or one of his minions... not like it makes a difference) The andy's and the doombringer were from eldritch... Damn pits....
     
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    Only a 27% Death's Fathom? O_O
     
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    Oh man 40-50 pit runs and you bag a 27% Death [email protected]#? I am ten times more jealous of you than of the other guys who got tal armor two times in a row on their 4th and 5th pit run. That find is awesome man, congratulations.
     
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    Ok this seems like the place...

    to post my list of items aquired from the pits as well...

    Using a sorc blizz/FW with a holy freeze merc. 482%MF with an additional 96% on my merc and I let him do the killing as much as possible. I take the WP to OC and tele down the road to the pit entrance killing averything that comes along the way there. I clear lvl 1 of the pits before going into lvl2 where i clear everything and then i open the crappy chest. These runs are made on Europe Ladder in private games only. ok here goes

    1 :Bartucs Cut Throat + Great Poleaxe of Alacrity
    2 :TIR(TH) + Ripsaw + ETH
    3 :ETH + Steelgoad + Cathan's Visage
    4 :Hexfire(TH) + Isenhart's Parry(TH) + Isenharts Case + Stormspire
    5 :Spirit Shroud + Bloodtree Stump + TIR
    6 :EL
    7 :Gleamscythe(TH) + Irathas Cuff + TAL
    8 :-
    9 :The Chieftain + Tancreds Crowbill + AMN
    10:-
    11:RAL(TH) + Islestrike
    12.Bul Khatos Sacred Charge + Demon Limb + THUL
    13.Goreshovel + Blacktongue + Isenharts Lightbrand + Cathans Seal
    14.Magnus Skin + Gimmershred
    15.Irathas Cord + Cathans Seal + Razors Edge
    16.Sanders Taboo + 1 skill necro amu w. good stats
    17.-
    18.Face of Horror(TH)
    19.Tancreds Crowbill + ITH
    20.Bezerkers Hauberk
    21.-
    22.Milabregas Orb + SHAEL + EL
    23.-
    24.Duriels Shell(OC)
    25.-
    26.Soulflay(TH) + SOL
    27.-
    28.Sparkling Mail(TH) + Dark Adherent + Boneflesh
    29.Vidalas Barb(OC) + Immortal Kings Pillar(OC) + ITH
    30.Cleglaws Tooth + EL + Cathans Seal + Immortal Kings Stone Crusher
    31.Etheral Edge + Tancreds Crowbill
    32.Tancreds Crowbill + TAL
    33.Infernal Torch(TH) + Blood Crescent
    34.Eth Bezerker Axe 6 sockets + Sigons Sabot
    35.EL + EL
    36.Sigons Gage + ELD + NEF
    37.Arctic Horn(TC)
    38.The Jade Tan Do
    39.Tancreds Spine(TH) + Stormstrike
    40.Milabregas Robe + Magefist + Griswolds Valor
    41.Sanders Taboo(TH) + Tearhaunch
    42.EL
    43.Rockfleece
    44.Wyrmhide Boots w good stats
    45.-
    46.-
    47.Islestrike
    48.-
    49.-
    50.TAL + Raven Claw


    thats it... only managed 50 runs so far whilst keeping track of the drops. No luck with runes as some of the others...
     

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