1.13C bots are outta control
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Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
I really just don't understand botting. Firstly, if I had a bot running and collecting me dozens of HR's and high-end stuff I'd really feel like I didn't deserve the loot. Secondly, during a month of this new ladder I've managed to gather a fortune of around 50 ists and a couple of high runewords. And I don't have a slightest idea what the hell I should do with all these runes (as I don't do PvP)! Why would I (or anyone) need a bot to create insane wealth while already my self-found wealth is way too much for me.
My friend, with whom I used to do MF and UT runs, started a hammerdin bot (he bought the 15%ed enigma ap, SOJs and Hoto for the char from an online store :no
and now he's "running" 24/7 and telling me about all these high runes "he" has found and I couldn't care less. Makes me sad. I once asked him, what he's going to do with all the stuff. He said he was going to sell it vs forum gold so that he could buy good gear in the beginning of next ladder. I mean what the ****?
I really just don't understand botting. Firstly, if I had a bot running and collecting me dozens of HR's and high-end stuff I'd really feel like I didn't deserve the loot. Secondly, during a month of this new ladder I've managed to gather a fortune of around 50 ists and a couple of high runewords. And I don't have a slightest idea what the hell I should do with all these runes (as I don't do PvP)! Why would I (or anyone) need a bot to create insane wealth while already my self-found wealth is way too much for me.
My friend, with whom I used to do MF and UT runs, started a hammerdin bot (he bought the 15%ed enigma ap, SOJs and Hoto for the char from an online store :no
and now he's "running" 24/7 and telling me about all these high runes "he" has found and I couldn't care less. Makes me sad. I once asked him, what he's going to do with all the stuff. He said he was going to sell it vs forum gold so that he could buy good gear in the beginning of next ladder. I mean what the ****?
PorkusMaximus
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Secondly, it sounds like you've just been incredibly lucky with your finds if you've gotten that much stuff. I've managed to pull together about 20-25 Ist worth of items in a month or two and I've considered myself VERY lucky indeed.
Finding items in diablo 2 is based solely on luck, you may be able to increase your odds of finding better items, but ultimately it comes down to how lucky you are. No one really "deserves" items or "earns" them, you just grind out runs until you get lucky.
Secondly, it sounds like you've just been incredibly lucky with your finds if you've gotten that much stuff. I've managed to pull together about 20-25 Ist worth of items in a month or two and I've considered myself VERY lucky indeed.
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Yeah the bots are way out of control as they are totally filling up the screen its equivellant of someone playing a radio full blast in the cinema.It gets me that they are total freeloaders advertising for free on bnet and come up with special offers like they are a legitimate business,so pretentious.
Yeah the bots are way out of control as they are totally filling up the screen its equivellant of someone playing a radio full blast in the cinema.It gets me that they are total freeloaders advertising for free on bnet and come up with special offers like they are a legitimate business,so pretentious.
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Last time I played, a few years ago, I did those endless runs and got some (a lot less than now though) wealth with that hard work and I think I earned it. I think it's all about working hard for your equipment. Now, in this ladder, that I've got so much with so little work I feel kinda empty and not knowing what to do. Maybe it's just me but in my opinion you yourself should work for your riches.
edit. My point is: it's different being lucky than getting everything with as little effort as possible. Being lucky is part of the game, botting is not.
Of course it's all about luck but I think it's different finding that Griffon's Eye or 2soc CoA (or in my case 20/19 pala torch) on your fifth MF run than on your 400th bot run. Even though you've been damn lucky to find it so fast you've at least put some effort into it and you've probably planned on putting a lot of effort into it. Setting up a bot is just giving up and taking the easy road.
Last time I played, a few years ago, I did those endless runs and got some (a lot less than now though) wealth with that hard work and I think I earned it. I think it's all about working hard for your equipment. Now, in this ladder, that I've got so much with so little work I feel kinda empty and not knowing what to do. Maybe it's just me but in my opinion you yourself should work for your riches.
edit. My point is: it's different being lucky than getting everything with as little effort as possible. Being lucky is part of the game, botting is not.
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Sorry to necro this thread from the depths of Page 3.
Was contemplating playing 1.13C before the launch but decided to see how the economy / state of game looks like first.
Based on this post, I gather that bots are still a mainstay in this game. How about duping? That was what really killed the interest in the game for me. Has this become prevalent again given that 1.13C has been out for sometime now.
Sorry to necro this thread from the depths of Page 3.
Was contemplating playing 1.13C before the launch but decided to see how the economy / state of game looks like first.
Based on this post, I gather that bots are still a mainstay in this game. How about duping? That was what really killed the interest in the game for me. Has this become prevalent again given that 1.13C has been out for sometime now.
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Let's face the facts folks, this game is dead. DOA, over, done with. This is why the 1.13 patch was just a huge fail, it did absolutely nothing to breath life. It was a content patch, without content. The fact that less people play every day also sadly means the odds of getting multiple spambots in your game increases.
I think the point of using a password protected private game pretty much defeats the whole damn purpose of Multiplayer gaming. If I want to sit in a room all alone, I could just as well do that in SP.
One final solution would be for sites such as this to host their own channels where people could gather to play. Is there such a channel? I don't know, if there is then this site needs to do a better job of getting the word out. No, I do not see a forum as an efficient means for players gathering to make games. Actually it is sad to think that nobody has been able to come up with a solution, sad because the state of this game just forces one to quit.
I stopped playing again about 5 months ago, just completely sick of the fact I could not play MP without constant spambots filling up the screen. Also did not help that nobody plays the game anymore. Day after day I could find no actual games where people were doing something. It was all spambots, baal bots, Chaos bots, etc..
Let's face the facts folks, this game is dead. DOA, over, done with. This is why the 1.13 patch was just a huge fail, it did absolutely nothing to breath life. It was a content patch, without content. The fact that less people play every day also sadly means the odds of getting multiple spambots in your game increases.
I think the point of using a password protected private game pretty much defeats the whole damn purpose of Multiplayer gaming. If I want to sit in a room all alone, I could just as well do that in SP.
One final solution would be for sites such as this to host their own channels where people could gather to play. Is there such a channel? I don't know, if there is then this site needs to do a better job of getting the word out. No, I do not see a forum as an efficient means for players gathering to make games. Actually it is sad to think that nobody has been able to come up with a solution, sad because the state of this game just forces one to quit.
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PorkusMaximus
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Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
My guess is that it's a little from column A, a little from column B. If dupe methods are still in the game, the big item shops are keeping pretty tight lipped about it.
I'm not sure about the duping. Within a week of reset there were countless paladins teleporting about with +775 enigmas made in 15/15 superior archon plates. I was aware of a rollback exploit that allowed players to continuously retry their runewords until they get a perfect roll, but the huge volume of Jah, Ber and 15/15 archon plates still had to come from somewhere. Did they all come from 24/7 bot runs, or were they duped?
My guess is that it's a little from column A, a little from column B. If dupe methods are still in the game, the big item shops are keeping pretty tight lipped about it.
Feysal
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Personally, I'd like to see Blizzard open an item shop of their own, where they could offer items that were not botted or duped, simply generated on demand as they were sold. Blizzard could offer that service cheaper and with fewer disruptions to legit players, putting all these item shops out of business. If I were a game designer, I'd have done that years ago.
I visited one of those item sites a short time ago, to see what exactly all the spam is about. What I saw was a semi-professional site, asking outrageous prices for items. I mean, I get why a SoJ would cost 0.98€ on nonladder, but why would an Angelic Halo be 0.79€, more expensive than a Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band? Insanity.
Personally, I'd like to see Blizzard open an item shop of their own, where they could offer items that were not botted or duped, simply generated on demand as they were sold. Blizzard could offer that service cheaper and with fewer disruptions to legit players, putting all these item shops out of business. If I were a game designer, I'd have done that years ago.
I visited one of those item sites a short time ago, to see what exactly all the spam is about. What I saw was a semi-professional site, asking outrageous prices for items. I mean, I get why a SoJ would cost 0.98€ on nonladder, but why would an Angelic Halo be 0.79€, more expensive than a Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band? Insanity.
korialstraz
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
It seems that starting an item shop would get you ready for retirement. Especially with those prices.
O_O
It seems that starting an item shop would get you ready for retirement. Especially with those prices.
Feysal
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
No wait, they're the same thing. Aren't they?
Would that be the fabled constricting ring or a ring of conning noobs?
No wait, they're the same thing. Aren't they?
reddude
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
The spam bots also make talking to people in game impossible. you try to say something, then when you send it it's in the middle of a wave of advertisements. Same with the chat rooms, impossible to do anything there cause it;s all washed up in the spam
I also visited one of these sites (and sent them an angry email about the spam XD and the funny part was, I actually got a reply) and I was looking at some of the rare items.. they are asking $100 for a pair of boots i saw :S No wonder they need to spam every game if that's what they want people to pay.
The spam bots also make talking to people in game impossible. you try to say something, then when you send it it's in the middle of a wave of advertisements. Same with the chat rooms, impossible to do anything there cause it;s all washed up in the spam
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
If you want spam bots to stop joining your games, USE A LEVEL RESTRICTION. The vast majority of bots are under level 5, at least on West ladder. I've seen maybe two bots who were level ~70.
So start using a level restriction on your games. You'll have maybe one bot join every other other other game...at least that has been my experience. In any case, it's a lot better than whining about it.
If you want spam bots to stop joining your games, USE A LEVEL RESTRICTION. The vast majority of bots are under level 5, at least on West ladder. I've seen maybe two bots who were level ~70.
So start using a level restriction on your games. You'll have maybe one bot join every other other other game...at least that has been my experience. In any case, it's a lot better than whining about it.