1.13C bots are outta control
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Deuterium
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Duping has been the cancer of Diablo II battlenet play for some time now.
2 out of every 3 high runes is easily a dupe, it's just astonishing how much of a market there is for pixels in this ageing game.
Just to elucidate my position, paying cash for ingame items is pathetic.
Seriously if it comes to that point you should probably just quit gaming.
Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
Duping has been the cancer of Diablo II battlenet play for some time now.
2 out of every 3 high runes is easily a dupe, it's just astonishing how much of a market there is for pixels in this ageing game.
Just to elucidate my position, paying cash for ingame items is pathetic.
Seriously if it comes to that point you should probably just quit gaming.
Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
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Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
i like to add my 2 cents
want a bot free area>
want real smart people, who play the game like it is life and death
and some of the nicest people you ever meet?
Hardcore mode
bots dont live in our reality, they die, and stay dead Mwhahahah
anyone botting on hardcore is a idiot who never make it
the people you group with on hardcore are not idiots, they KNOW what their doing, ever step of the way,
their kind people
when your life hangs on the line of on others in hardcore groups, you tend to treat each other as brothers in arms
its such a great feeling
D2 bnet on hardcore is such a nice place if you get to know the right amount of people
thank god for town pk fix, and respec ,
we tend to put all our stats in hp and diff skills then softcore people use, now we can at lest suffer less for the choices we make when we want to try something new
also our trading is close net family,
and for my self, as a necro summoner
people tend to Love my pets, front line cannon folder for our hp bars
just make a hardcore char,
and enter our world, costs are high, but oh is it worth it
p/s i also have softcore , but i get no where near the fun of team of hardcore steam rolling everything
also if you make it to the high levels, you often get stuff cheap and easy in trades
a high level friend is valued with items and sharing in our world
people who buy items, often dont live in hardcore
they hate to Lose their Money worth to 1 death MWHAHAHA
i like to add my 2 cents
want a bot free area>
want real smart people, who play the game like it is life and death
and some of the nicest people you ever meet?
Hardcore mode
bots dont live in our reality, they die, and stay dead Mwhahahah
anyone botting on hardcore is a idiot who never make it
the people you group with on hardcore are not idiots, they KNOW what their doing, ever step of the way,
their kind people
when your life hangs on the line of on others in hardcore groups, you tend to treat each other as brothers in arms
its such a great feeling
D2 bnet on hardcore is such a nice place if you get to know the right amount of people
thank god for town pk fix, and respec ,
we tend to put all our stats in hp and diff skills then softcore people use, now we can at lest suffer less for the choices we make when we want to try something new
also our trading is close net family,
and for my self, as a necro summoner
people tend to Love my pets, front line cannon folder for our hp bars
just make a hardcore char,
and enter our world, costs are high, but oh is it worth it
p/s i also have softcore , but i get no where near the fun of team of hardcore steam rolling everything
also if you make it to the high levels, you often get stuff cheap and easy in trades
a high level friend is valued with items and sharing in our world
people who buy items, often dont live in hardcore
they hate to Lose their Money worth to 1 death MWHAHAHA
nolan16
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
I know on hc west ladder there were baal bots and even a pay site bot, I'm sure there would have been more pay site bots if there were more than 2-3 hell games at a time. I had some high 80s and low 90 chars, and I can tell you, the hc community is not immune to botting.
I hope the trading on hc has improved, it looks like more people are playing hc since fixing tppk (thank god!). Last season, if you ever wanted to trade you had to use another certain website and it was way annoying!
I know on hc west ladder there were baal bots and even a pay site bot, I'm sure there would have been more pay site bots if there were more than 2-3 hell games at a time. I had some high 80s and low 90 chars, and I can tell you, the hc community is not immune to botting.
I hope the trading on hc has improved, it looks like more people are playing hc since fixing tppk (thank god!). Last season, if you ever wanted to trade you had to use another certain website and it was way annoying!
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
I lol'd so hard at how deluded you are I decided to register just for this.
I've botted 7 sorcs since 1.13 reset and have 2 hammerdins running for 4 days, while I'm at work and while I was on vacation.
There are at least 6 redvex hammerdin bots games on hcl hell at any given time, day or night. There are around 200 people botting I know of, over and over and over, where do you think all the hrs and charms are coming from?
There is NO trading community, everyone uses fg, big fish eats the little fish.
You spend MAYBE 10 fg to set up a sorc bot and (wiz, tr armor, tr amu, viper, storm, shako) and you're getting 3 times that amount the first time you find and sell a HR. People hate to lose their items?
I got 4 enigmas with self-found HRs and armors (found while I was sleeping or working or out having fun) and that's AFTER the initial banwave that left me with 0 stuff, before that I had more.
Please, get a grip...
If another banwave will come, I'll just reconfigure 2 more bots and that's that, will get everything back in no time. Dream on about your perfect hardcore community, I'm part of it and I'm nowhere near the worst.
i like to add my 2 cents
want a bot free area>
want real smart people, who play the game like it is life and death
and some of the nicest people you ever meet?
Hardcore mode
bots dont live in our reality, they die, and stay dead Mwhahahah
anyone botting on hardcore is a idiot who never make it
the people you group with on hardcore are not idiots, they KNOW what their doing, ever step of the way,
their kind people
when your life hangs on the line of on others in hardcore groups, you tend to treat each other as brothers in arms
its such a great feeling
D2 bnet on hardcore is such a nice place if you get to know the right amount of people
thank god for town pk fix, and respec ,
we tend to put all our stats in hp and diff skills then softcore people use, now we can at lest suffer less for the choices we make when we want to try something new
also our trading is close net family,
and for my self, as a necro summoner
people tend to Love my pets, front line cannon folder for our hp bars
just make a hardcore char,
and enter our world, costs are high, but oh is it worth it
p/s i also have softcore , but i get no where near the fun of team of hardcore steam rolling everything
also if you make it to the high levels, you often get stuff cheap and easy in trades
a high level friend is valued with items and sharing in our world
people who buy items, often dont live in hardcore
they hate to Lose their Money worth to 1 death MWHAHAHA
I lol'd so hard at how deluded you are I decided to register just for this.
I've botted 7 sorcs since 1.13 reset and have 2 hammerdins running for 4 days, while I'm at work and while I was on vacation.
There are at least 6 redvex hammerdin bots games on hcl hell at any given time, day or night. There are around 200 people botting I know of, over and over and over, where do you think all the hrs and charms are coming from?
There is NO trading community, everyone uses fg, big fish eats the little fish.
You spend MAYBE 10 fg to set up a sorc bot and (wiz, tr armor, tr amu, viper, storm, shako) and you're getting 3 times that amount the first time you find and sell a HR. People hate to lose their items?
I got 4 enigmas with self-found HRs and armors (found while I was sleeping or working or out having fun) and that's AFTER the initial banwave that left me with 0 stuff, before that I had more.
Please, get a grip...
If another banwave will come, I'll just reconfigure 2 more bots and that's that, will get everything back in no time. Dream on about your perfect hardcore community, I'm part of it and I'm nowhere near the worst.
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
First of all let me start by saying that I don't buy items and such. So please don't interpret this as supporting the 'bots'.
But I want to comment on the fact that people seem so opposed to purchasing online game items. I think you must be living in 1991 or something, since virtual items and games are common in more than just nerds now.
First of all, diablo 2 is a game. It is entertainment. For any entertainment or hobby that one may have (woodworking, running, movies, etc), they all have one basic equation to see what they are 'worth'. Take the cost of the hobby and then divide by the time of enjoyment that you get out of it. This gives you cost/hr that your hobby costs.
A movie, lets say 2hrs run length, costs $11 (here). That is $5.50/hr of enjoyment.
Lets say I buy an online item for $11. Most people would at least play with a char for lets say 10 hrs (lvl ~90). That's only $1.1/hr.
(it would work out less I am sure, given that you could play that character forever if you wanted)
See?
Buying online items is just an entertainment expense, nothing more. Sure there are negatives (fuels bots, etc) but otherwise, it is in no way different than any other "useless" entertainment expense.
*sigh*
First of all let me start by saying that I don't buy items and such. So please don't interpret this as supporting the 'bots'.
But I want to comment on the fact that people seem so opposed to purchasing online game items. I think you must be living in 1991 or something, since virtual items and games are common in more than just nerds now.
First of all, diablo 2 is a game. It is entertainment. For any entertainment or hobby that one may have (woodworking, running, movies, etc), they all have one basic equation to see what they are 'worth'. Take the cost of the hobby and then divide by the time of enjoyment that you get out of it. This gives you cost/hr that your hobby costs.
A movie, lets say 2hrs run length, costs $11 (here). That is $5.50/hr of enjoyment.
Lets say I buy an online item for $11. Most people would at least play with a char for lets say 10 hrs (lvl ~90). That's only $1.1/hr.
(it would work out less I am sure, given that you could play that character forever if you wanted)
See?
Buying online items is just an entertainment expense, nothing more. Sure there are negatives (fuels bots, etc) but otherwise, it is in no way different than any other "useless" entertainment expense.
*sigh*
korialstraz
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Reported the post. Don't know if they ban here for admitting that, but good luck trying to trade for anything on this forum. IIRC that will get insta banned. This place is so much better off without people like you.
pcguy
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
I see anybody who buys items from those websites as those who are contributing to the botting problem. If nobody buys from the sites, then advertisement bots would not exist. Regardless of what people say in these forums, people will still keep buying from those sites. This means their annoying spam is actually working to an extent- and that is very frustrating to me.
My opinion is that if these websites want to advertise, they should do it in a way that does not interfere with my gaming experience. They are entirely too invasive and annoying. Their advertisements are causing me to have a negative view on their websites and practices.
What I do not understand is why the bots fill the screen with so much text. It is as if the people who configure the bots do not know what they are doing to the game. It is as if they do not understand that their messages are ruining the ability to play the game. It is not an intelligent way to advertise.
I see anybody who buys items from those websites as those who are contributing to the botting problem. If nobody buys from the sites, then advertisement bots would not exist. Regardless of what people say in these forums, people will still keep buying from those sites. This means their annoying spam is actually working to an extent- and that is very frustrating to me.
My opinion is that if these websites want to advertise, they should do it in a way that does not interfere with my gaming experience. They are entirely too invasive and annoying. Their advertisements are causing me to have a negative view on their websites and practices.
What I do not understand is why the bots fill the screen with so much text. It is as if the people who configure the bots do not know what they are doing to the game. It is as if they do not understand that their messages are ruining the ability to play the game. It is not an intelligent way to advertise.
boogyman19946
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
I used to spend quite a bit of time on this game, but I haven't touched it in a long while now. Ladder has ridiculously many bots. I remember moving from non-ladder to ladder one day and when I entered the game, 5 bots entered it almost instantly. They spammed, covered the entire screen, and left. Some human players join in and after them, bots just kept coming in and out of the game. It is so unbelievable annoying. On non-ladder, there are those bots that stay in the game and spam very slowly so that you continuously have to press n to clear the screen. In those cases, I would always just press P, squelch, press P again. It all took me roughly 2-3 seconds and I was done with them for the next minute until next wave comes in. On ladder, this is impossible: the bots enter, flash the screen with messages, and leave. Within 1-2 seconds your screen is all white from the text. DX
Interesting concept I must admit :scratchchin: Quite interesting indeed.
I used to spend quite a bit of time on this game, but I haven't touched it in a long while now. Ladder has ridiculously many bots. I remember moving from non-ladder to ladder one day and when I entered the game, 5 bots entered it almost instantly. They spammed, covered the entire screen, and left. Some human players join in and after them, bots just kept coming in and out of the game. It is so unbelievable annoying. On non-ladder, there are those bots that stay in the game and spam very slowly so that you continuously have to press n to clear the screen. In those cases, I would always just press P, squelch, press P again. It all took me roughly 2-3 seconds and I was done with them for the next minute until next wave comes in. On ladder, this is impossible: the bots enter, flash the screen with messages, and leave. Within 1-2 seconds your screen is all white from the text. DX
zrk
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Not all is gone for a legit player though. Though MFing is pretty hard to make wealth with with the glut of botted items everywhere, services like rushing(especially classic hell rushing) and level services are actively traded for high amounts of fg.
Not all is gone for a legit player though. Though MFing is pretty hard to make wealth with with the glut of botted items everywhere, services like rushing(especially classic hell rushing) and level services are actively traded for high amounts of fg.
raveharu
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Anyway the game is just too old, Blizzard didn't think about bots when they created this game because it was more about single than multiplayer. There are plenty of ways to stop it but Blizzard couldn't care less, I'll rather they concentrate on D3 so that it'll release earlier :jig:
I lol'd so hard at how deluded you are to proudly admit you bot here, and to even discuss about FG (faggot gold), GRATS on getting banned :givelove:
This isn't the correct forum to discuss about FG. Haven't you learned the lesson?
Anyway the game is just too old, Blizzard didn't think about bots when they created this game because it was more about single than multiplayer. There are plenty of ways to stop it but Blizzard couldn't care less, I'll rather they concentrate on D3 so that it'll release earlier :jig:
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PorkusMaximus
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Faggot gold? Very mature.
The botting is pretty crazy, maybe 1 in 100 chaos/baal runs seem to actually be run by a live player. It seems very rare to actually get a full chaos/baal run game on Eu, because everyone is too busy running their own bot. I personally don't trade on any other websites and I rarely if ever directly trade on B.net so I guess the bot economy doesn't affect me directly, although I'm sorry to say that even a few traders on ETF have some very suspicious looking trade lists.
As for paying for items; I don't quite understand why people pay money for items that are guaranteed to be botted or duped, when they can just download an editor for single player?
Faggot gold? Very mature.
The botting is pretty crazy, maybe 1 in 100 chaos/baal runs seem to actually be run by a live player. It seems very rare to actually get a full chaos/baal run game on Eu, because everyone is too busy running their own bot. I personally don't trade on any other websites and I rarely if ever directly trade on B.net so I guess the bot economy doesn't affect me directly, although I'm sorry to say that even a few traders on ETF have some very suspicious looking trade lists.
As for paying for items; I don't quite understand why people pay money for items that are guaranteed to be botted or duped, when they can just download an editor for single player?
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
You know part of me feels that Blizz brought this upon themselves -- I know everytime I got "realm down" that it pissed me off to no end. Not that I would ever bought, I actually enjoy MFing for some reason (Ugh, I'm so nerdy...)
Aside from the "LOL BANNED" comments aimed at Lavey, did anyone happen to read his post? Someone claimed that in hardcore no one bots and stuff, and he registered just to contradict that -- found it interesting. In general I remember HC being a bit more tame in regards to the SC craziness, but I guess not anymore. Also I hate to burst anyone's bubbles, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't give one iota that he was banned from here
/sigh
But yeah to go back on topic, I've not played for about 2 years now, when I left bots weren't as pervasive -- surely not as brazenly as public baal run bots and stuff. But today? Holy crap folks, what the hell happened? People publicly bot baal runs now?! //lame
But beyond the item bots, or baal bots, or whatever (because even though it pisses me off, it's kind of nice to get in on baal runs that don't stop randomly) the thing that annoys the crap outta me are the spammers! Hell I would prefer that everyone botted, because at least then it would put those ANNOYING SPAMMERS OUT OF BUSINESS. The ones you can't perma-squelch are also super lame.
For the life of me if i ever lost my mind and decided to buy D2 items (WTF!?) I know for damn sure I'd never go with one of those places spamming ingame.
/rant
You know part of me feels that Blizz brought this upon themselves -- I know everytime I got "realm down" that it pissed me off to no end. Not that I would ever bought, I actually enjoy MFing for some reason (Ugh, I'm so nerdy...)
Aside from the "LOL BANNED" comments aimed at Lavey, did anyone happen to read his post? Someone claimed that in hardcore no one bots and stuff, and he registered just to contradict that -- found it interesting. In general I remember HC being a bit more tame in regards to the SC craziness, but I guess not anymore. Also I hate to burst anyone's bubbles, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't give one iota that he was banned from here
/sigh
But yeah to go back on topic, I've not played for about 2 years now, when I left bots weren't as pervasive -- surely not as brazenly as public baal run bots and stuff. But today? Holy crap folks, what the hell happened? People publicly bot baal runs now?! //lame
But beyond the item bots, or baal bots, or whatever (because even though it pisses me off, it's kind of nice to get in on baal runs that don't stop randomly) the thing that annoys the crap outta me are the spammers! Hell I would prefer that everyone botted, because at least then it would put those ANNOYING SPAMMERS OUT OF BUSINESS. The ones you can't perma-squelch are also super lame.
For the life of me if i ever lost my mind and decided to buy D2 items (WTF!?) I know for damn sure I'd never go with one of those places spamming ingame.
/rant
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Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
After reading this thread, im thinking to myself - is bnet even worth playing anymore? I mean the whole economy of d2 is crazy now. everyone gets enigma, infinity etc easily is a few days. Legit players are suffering for the hard work they are putting in to actually make those high level runewords. I haven't been playing for a long long time (5 years?) And im just wondering from reading all these comments, is single player the way to go. Its not bad considering there actually is a single player community here and ppl actually host MP games.
After reading this thread, im thinking to myself - is bnet even worth playing anymore? I mean the whole economy of d2 is crazy now. everyone gets enigma, infinity etc easily is a few days. Legit players are suffering for the hard work they are putting in to actually make those high level runewords. I haven't been playing for a long long time (5 years?) And im just wondering from reading all these comments, is single player the way to go. Its not bad considering there actually is a single player community here and ppl actually host MP games.
nurman
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
Start playing SP, or do not trade or play in public games.
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
SP is kinda boring to me, playing online is more fun, i actually like the random layouts; not to mention one of the reasons I came back was to help a friend out who plays on bnet, hehe. Plus I'm the one with the 2 sets of cdkeys so I always have an xfer game open =D
This is what I do, I only venture out into "public" when I need some levels.
SP is kinda boring to me, playing online is more fun, i actually like the random layouts; not to mention one of the reasons I came back was to help a friend out who plays on bnet, hehe. Plus I'm the one with the 2 sets of cdkeys so I always have an xfer game open =D
Cyanight
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 1.13C bots are outta control
I am a 45 year old programmer and I have played a lot of games in my time starting with the very first video game called pong. I used to make macros for Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies years ago. Then one day a friend of mine started playing UO and asked me to go hunting with him. I didn’t know the first thing about hunting because I never played the game. I felt like such a noob because this friend of mine had more knowledge of playing the game, yet I had owned it for years. It really woke me up to what I was doing. This is why you have to respect the game and play within the bounds of the rules. Instead of buying items why don’t you just play single player and hack the items to be some godly insane power? Of course this removes the fun from the game because it is no longer a challenge.
I play hardcore on USEAST and I do not trade with anyone. I give people free stuff but I do not accept anything. I want to find everything myself. I made this rule and I’m living by it to make the game challenging and exciting for me. Sure I strive for power but I know I earned it when I find something myself. I would play single player but there is no Dclone or Ubers.
Bots are only as smart as the person who programmed them and most will leave the game if you hostile them. If they don’t then you have opportunity to go hunt them and hand them their deeds. Maybe the bots will hunt themselves who knows.
I am a 45 year old programmer and I have played a lot of games in my time starting with the very first video game called pong. I used to make macros for Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies years ago. Then one day a friend of mine started playing UO and asked me to go hunting with him. I didn’t know the first thing about hunting because I never played the game. I felt like such a noob because this friend of mine had more knowledge of playing the game, yet I had owned it for years. It really woke me up to what I was doing. This is why you have to respect the game and play within the bounds of the rules. Instead of buying items why don’t you just play single player and hack the items to be some godly insane power? Of course this removes the fun from the game because it is no longer a challenge.
I play hardcore on USEAST and I do not trade with anyone. I give people free stuff but I do not accept anything. I want to find everything myself. I made this rule and I’m living by it to make the game challenging and exciting for me. Sure I strive for power but I know I earned it when I find something myself. I would play single player but there is no Dclone or Ubers.
Bots are only as smart as the person who programmed them and most will leave the game if you hostile them. If they don’t then you have opportunity to go hunt them and hand them their deeds. Maybe the bots will hunt themselves who knows.