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1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

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  1. TheNix

    TheNix Diabloii.Net Member

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    1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    I'm going to be needing an eth BA for Death some time soon. I usually feel uncomfortable with using more powerful items from earlier patches, but if a 1.07 BA is significantly better than a 1.1x one, I may be able to overcome my discomfort. What is the difference between the two BA?
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    Etheral weapons from 107 has an extra 50% enhanced maximum damage, which with an eth BA, will give an ekstra 53 maximum damage on the 107 compared to the 1.1x one.
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    Eth mod was applied differently in 1.07 than it's in 1.13 - as 50% ED hidden mod. When you bring an eth item forward it's still eth, but in a way it's in 1.13, but 50% ED mod remains on top of it. So basically you have regular item with eth bonus with 50%ED on top without putting anything in yet.
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    Thanks guys, its very tempting!
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    I know exactly how you feel, it seems a little cheesy, but the benefits are very measurable :)

    I used 1.07 ethereal for the Oath rune word and certainly wasn't disappointed :)
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    I dont have many opportunities to show this beauty ;):

    Code:
    [b]baqarah's 1.07 hax Breath of the Dying [/b]
    Berserker Axe 
    VexHelElEldZodEth 
    One Hand Damage: 197 - [b][u]581[/u][/b] 
    Durability: 14 of 14 
    Required Level: 69 
    Required Strength: 103 
    Required Dexterity: 40 
    Fingerprint: 0x6f32dc8b 
    Item Level: 87 
    Version: Expansion 
    50% Chance to cast level 20 Poison Nova when you Kill an Enemy 
    Indestructible 
    +60% Increased Attack Speed 
    [b][u]449% Enhanced Damage [/u][/b]
    -25% Target Defense 
    +50 to Attack Rating 
    +200% Damage to Undead 
    +50 to Attack Rating against Undead 
    7% Mana stolen per hit 
    15% Life stolen per hit 
    Prevent Monster Heal 
    All Stats +30 
    +1 to Light Radius 
    Requirements -20% Ethereal 
    6 Sockets (6 used)
    
    Accually the ed on that thing is
    "+399% ed min damage
    +449% ed max damage"
    as 1.07 50% ed damage only applies to max damage. Min damage showed is a little higher than in reality (should be 175). Max damage is correct, though.
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    Why doesn't that lead to much more demand for weapons like Cryptic swords with slightly lower avg damage but massively higher max damage? The 1.07 eth bug would have a larger effect of these weapons, right? And since the base avg is only a couple points off it seems like the larger spread weapons would come out ahead when using 1.07 eth bases.
     
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    Re: 1.07 Vs 1.1x BA

    Table with the most common weapons with the highest max damage (damage is for eth 1.07 versions):
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    All data from Arreat Summit
    
    		Dam Min	Dam Max	Avg Dam	Sockets	Speed	Rangeadder
    Scourge		12	180	96	5	-10	2
    L. Mallet 	75	137.25	106.125	4	20	1
    							
    BA		36	159.75	97.875	6	0	2
    Small Crescent	57	135	96	4	10	1
    Ettin Axe	49.5	148.5	99	5	10	1
    							
    Conquest Sword	55.5	119.25	87.375	4	0	0
    Cryptic Sword	7.5	173.25	90.375	4	-10	1
    B.Blade (1H)	22.5	168.75	95.625	4	0	2
    C. Sword (1H)	39	157.5	98.25	5	10	2
    
    
    
    Legendary Mallet is here only for comparison, since you cant make any of the most common good runewords (oath, grief, botd, death).
    The best 1.07 eth weapon is Ettin Axe with 99 avg damage (not considering its range, that is smaller than BA's). It has ias 10 and max 5 sockets, so no botd and no grief (atma bugged for more cheese) that hits the last bp. An oath is a good idea for that base weapon.
    Colossus Sword with its 1H 98 avg damage is close second. 5 sockets means no botd.

    Among the Grief-able (atma bug!) weapons BA is the best - highest damage, low stat req, rangeadder 2.

    Other very good weapon is Small Crescent (low lvl req, 4 sockets = making an oath easier).
     
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