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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Oh right, I totally missed your gear stats! :P So it is +50% base critical damage for everything after all. Thanks again. :)
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Great, thanks for the testing! Its clear now that normal attacks (no skills) get a base +100% critical strike bonus. Ruthless just increases it to +150%. Could you test the same stuff with a skill (e.g. cleave or bash)? From what I've seen in videos, it...
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    Could anybody report this bug?

    Re: Could anybody report this bug? Just to confirm that bakii is correct. This is what I had worked out for character sheet DPS: ----------- A = Dmg from Attack Bonus = 1 + Attack / 100 C = Dmg from Crit% and Bonus Crit Dmg% = 1 + Crit% / 100 * (1 + BonusCritDmg% / 100) W = Weapon DPS =...
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    Could anybody report this bug?

    Re: Could anybody report this bug? Seems like you're absolutely right :) I had worked out the character sheet DPS formula in a couple threads before (e.g. this one http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8026618&postcount=44 ). Seems that you're right, physical attacks only have a...
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    Difference damage and attack?

    Re: Difference damage and attack? I think that is true for stats that would be game breaking if they reached a certain value (for example 100%), such as Dodge or Critical strike chances. I don't think this will be true for stats like attack though.
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    +% dmg may NOT be what we think!

    Re: +% dmg may NOT be what we think! I don't know, but I'm guessing you are correct. It probably is something like this: Dmg from Attack Bonus (unchanged) = A = ( 1 + Attack/100 ) Dmg from Crit% and Bonus Crit Dmg% (less critical strike damage) = C = ( 1 - Crit%/100 + Crit%/100 * ( 1 + 0.5 +...
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    +% dmg may NOT be what we think!

    Re: +% dmg may NOT be what we think! To make sure the formula is as clear as possible, I just made a pic written in "properly". http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/257/d3dpscalc.jpg/ Hope this clears up any misunderstanding :)
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    +% dmg may NOT be what we think!

    Re: +% dmg may NOT be what we think! You're missing a parenthesis. Did you mean: C=1+[(crit%/100)*(1+(bonuscrit%/100))] ? I don't see what is wrong with my original formula other than the excessive parentheses :P Maybe this is clearer: C = 1 + Crit%/100 * ( 1 + BonusCritDmg%/100 )...
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    Theme based builds vs Optimal/Effective builds

    Re: Theme based builds vs Optimal/Effective builds Personally, I love themed builds. I think it brings a lot of flavour to the characters, at least in my mind. Here are a few builds I have thought up, with their respective nicknames :P ----------- Barb: Frenzied Earthquaker...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Yeah, the advantage of my build is that I can probably keep WotB up close to 100% of the time if there are enough mobs around (with the +7 fury per crit) :) But you get to throw axes with half your skills!! Which is cool in and of itself to be honest... and you...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Same here! I love to stack procs that require a certain environment to work well (i.e. in this case lots of monsters!). Here is what I'm thinking of speccing: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#fShYiP!bYT!YZZbbb It is a bit more based on crit...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread I wouldn't see why they wouldn't, but sometimes the mechanics in games can be weird (for example, it used to be quite weird in WoW a few years back)... Only time will tell, but I really hope the buffs/passives/gear bonuses will all benefit all aspects of...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread You're right, but I meant that, with the numbers provided by Kastigar, it seems that skill damage is multiplied to reach the final numbers. In your calculations too, you multiply the damage bonuses, you dont add them. I think that was what Doppel was...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Its already been tested, damage% is multiplied (at least for Battle Rage). Hopefully it is the same for skill damage and all individual damage buffs.
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Just to confirm: to work out DPS with the Battle Rage buff, you first have to increase Crit% by 4% in the original formula. Then, you have to multiply the final DPS by the Dmg% bonus provided by Battle Rage: BattleRageDmg% = BR = 1 + 30%/100 = 1.3 The results...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread I took your assumption with the +100% standard crit dmg bonus, with all the extras added on top. It looks like I hit the jackpot! And the weapon master is not bugged, at least not in the calculations (so in Kastigar's case, I only took the final crit% he...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Just a note, its not very well worded, but I think the damage% buff from frenzy only work for frenzy (like it's attack speed bonus). Obviously no way to be sure for now.
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Is it possible that there is a base "hidden" DPS increase that is a fixed amount, that just comes with the character? I know that in WoW it used to be the case (not sure nowadays). You could test this by taking a new character and checking if you see the same...
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread One thing I just thought about... do monsters have armor/damage reduction stats? Because that could skew the figures if you want to work out damage dealt for a given weapon.
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    The Really Big Barb thread

    Re: The Really Big Barb thread Hmm okay... that's weird :P How much critical strike damage do you have btw? It could be due to the extra 4% crit chance that battle rage provides.
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