The Diablo Podcast #82: The Diablo 3 Expansion Debate

Flux is joined Exile to speculate on all things Diablo 3 expansion. Class and item makeovers, improved features, new monsters, new game modes, Act Five’s setting, and more.

Times and topics are approximate, as the flow of conversation twists and turns.

  • 0:00 — Intro and why it’s more fun to speculate about the future than talk about the present.
  • 3:00 — Improved multiplayer features. More exp/items in MP games? Raid-type content?
  • 8:20 — Better character customization and item system improvements.
  • 14:40 — Level design improvements. More randomness/variety in expansion/act 5?
  • 18:40 — Guest monsters? More monster variety and design?
  • 26:00 — Simplification of features in Diablo III. How does WoW retain more complexity and how can Diablo III add more depth?
  • 36:40 — New class in the expansion. Return of the Necromancer? Paladin? Other? Both?
  • 42:00 — Act five? Where? What? Difference?
  • 46:50 — A new Follower? Sparkle Panda suggestion!
  • 48:30 — New game modes. Tower defense, competitive PvM, bottomless dungeon, etc.
  • 54:00 — When will D3X be released? How did they make D2X with act 5, Druid, Assassin, all the new items and other features in just 12 months?
  • 55:00 — Farewell and thanks to Xanth, and welcome to ZappaFan. Plus new podcast guests wanted.

The Diablo Podcast Episode Guidein the DiabloWiki provides links to every show, plus quick summaries.

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29 thoughts on “The Diablo Podcast #82: The Diablo 3 Expansion Debate

  1. Why don’t you provide an MP3 anymore, let alone a working RSS feed? Again: not everyone prefers iOS devices. Having to rip the audio from youtube to listen to in in my car is needlessly cumbersome.

    The link to DiabloWiki Episode Guide is ridiculous, the last issue mentioned there is 78!

    I am very much looking forward to listening to this episode – curious to see if it contains as much D3-hate as #81. Find that too harsh? Then I suggest listening to it again yourself!

    • To add to your frustration, Planet, as of right now this episode isn’t even available on iTunes. It still shows Ep. 81 as the latest. A wile back there was a time where a few episodes didn’t come out on iTunes for almost a week after they were available here.

      Very frustrating. I like to listen to the podcast on my drive to work or when I’m outside doing yard work. I almost never play it on my computer, so having it only available on the site or YouTube is pretty much useless to me.

    • There was a technical problem in uploading the mp3 last night. I’ll put it up today asap. But since the YT version was ready to go, and it’s a short week with the holiday, I thought I’d just go ahead and post what was available.

      Update: And mp3 is up. Should show on itunes now as well.

      • With all due respect Flux, when you say “Should show on itunes now as well.” does that mean you actually checked and see it listed in the iTunes Store?

        I do not see it listed in the html itunes preview page (takes 3 seconds to see if you just click the link on a system without itunes or have a script/permission to prevent auto-opening), nor do I see it in the list of episodes in iTunes app, nor does clicking refresh on the podcast in iTunes show the new episode.

      • I can second jwadamson’s finding. Not on iTunes web site, not on iTunes computer app, and not on podcast app on iPhone. In fact, when I went to look for it earlier, I actually found a second Diablo.Incgamers podcast that only had episode 80 in it, leading me to believe there’s some confusion going on with submitting the podcast to Apple, perhaps.

      • Hi Flux,

        I tried PMing this to you but your box was full.

        I’ve only recently started listening to the Diablo 3 podcast in the past 2 months and I have to say I’m am more than a little disappointed by the most recent episode.

        Your only guest had absolutely no knowledge of the current state of Diablo 3 and it seemed nearly the entire episode was spent reminiscing about Diablo 2 and how much better it was than D3. Many of the opinions Exile, and to a lesser degree yourself, gave about the game were based on wrong information or just a “gut-feeling”. So much has happened in 1.0.5 that is not being discussed. The game and meta-game continues to evolve as more powerful gear is found and new builds are discovered. There are so many tools out there to help new and struggling players. There are people doing livestreaming daily who make it a point to educate people on new ways to play their class. None of these things are ever mentioned and I have to say, I think everyone who has been on the podcast in the last few weeks is completely out of touch with Diablo 3 besides what they’ve read in the Blue Posts. The one exception was your Hardcore player, but even he seemed to be playing less and less and now it seems he has left the show permanently.

        By the end of the show I had almost made up my mind to give up on the podcast. Fortunately, I was relieved when you asked for new blood, new guests and columnists. I think this is exactly what you need. There are tons of people out there that are truly enjoying Diablo 3 right now and have the ability to breathe new life into the podcast. I believe I am one of those people.

        I am a Paragon Level 75 Theorycrafting Monk. I participate daily on a monk stream that has an average of 300 viewers. I have helped the creator with many of the calculations that thousands of players use on a daily basis. I am an active contributor on the subreddit and I have even created a Monk dps and more calculator that is by far the most useful tool out there for any level 60+ monk.

        I do a fair bit of AHing and am in touch with current prices of most gear, and know what sells and what doesn’t. I am an avid theorycrafter and could spend hours talking about the relative worth of Magic Find Gear to DPS to Monster Levels. Also, I actively play the game…roughly 5-10 hours a week. On top of that, I know other people, other classes, who would likely be great contributors to the D3 podcast.

        I would love a chance to discuss this further. The best way to contact me is probably via reddit at or visit the stream where I participate:


        • I wouldn’t have had Exile on for a show about say, the Monk, and we had a 3rd guest who has been playing of late, but he had to cancel at the last minute since he worked late the night we were recording, so this was an unusual show. That said, quite a few of the people who are interested in D3X are just like Exile; not playing D3C since they were disappointed by the early state of the game, so in that way he’s actually quite representative of the target audience for the expansion, sadly.

          Also, knowledge of the current patch version of D3C doesn’t matter much in terms of speculating on a 6th char class, the location of act 5, new game modes, PvP hopes, etc. And that’s a lot of what we did on this show.

          As for your application, I just replied to 11 would-be guests with info to catch me on skype for sound check and audition; if you mailed me you were one of them. If not, there’s still time. My email is in the post above.

  2. so much jay wilson hate. diablo hate.

    one day you will sing a different tune. you will realize that diablo is going to a great place! faq pvp but it will be coming.

    • @ “one day you will sing a different tune. you will realize that diablo is going to a great place!”


    • Its got a long ways to go still to get to that “great place.” There are some core design decisions that are really keeping it from getting to that great place as well. So much more could have been done with the paragon system for example and the lack of depth it has shows that while they are moving in the right direction… one wonders if they will ever get there at all and if they do it most certainly seems like it won’t be before an expansion.

  3. Thanks for providing an MP3. But still! RSS is a standard that existed long before anyone at Apple even thought of making iTunes. It is perfectly suited for distribution of information and media. Why are you vendor-locking in?

    Imagine that people stop posting videos to YouTube. Instead, they direct you to download Hollaplop, that is tied to the Hollaplop service running best on Waddayadda Computers. These are basically the same as your normal computers, but cost 30% more – some stuff works better, some worse. On your normal computer, Hollaplop runs and looks like shit AND it installs about 10 services without which it refuses to run and those bog your computer down. There is no other way to access the Hollaplop service, the web frontend keeps directing you to download the Hollaplop application even though every function could have been easily done with web standards.

    Could you imagine being a little pissed off by all the needless barbed wire? That is exactly what’s happening here! Except you are sitting on the other side of the fence and consider everything normal.

  4. Its just unfortunate that 6 months after launch everyone just can’t wait for the expandsion to save us from whats going on right now. Have fun speculating an expandsion thats probably not coming for atleast 1.5 years, its almost more like torture than fun to think what cool things they could be adding.

  5. Xmas 2013 is my guess for the Diablo 3 Xpac 1. The systems stand and are tested, so “only” 1 new class plus content/art has to be created, part of which is already done (i.e. Mystic, companions, charms, talisman etc). Also, Blizzard is under pressure to deliver new PvE content in time after 1.10 is out.

    • You must be new to Blizz games. No chance in hell the xpac hits in 2013. Doesn’t look like they’ll even hit their original PvP deadline!

    • The leaked product slate said end of 2011 for Diablo 3, and mid 2013 for the Diablo 3 xpac 1. Since Diablo 3 has been delayed a half year, you can 6 months to the latter as well, which would be end of 2013.

      • I’m not going to go dig up old posts, but Nobbie, I specifically remember you being gung ho on EVERY possible opportunity to vastly overestimate how soon D3 was going to arrive, all during 2010 and 2011.

        Not to be a smart ass, but going by your past estimates I’d say any date you predict for D3X is guaranteed to be at least 6-12m too soon. So could you guess like, this xmas? That might give me some hope for next year after all.

    • When viewed via the iOS Podcasts app, iTunes html page, and iTunes proper all show episode 80 as the latest. Episode 81 never showed and 82 is not there now.

      • We are looking at the iTunes issue which could be related the the validation problem. It should sort itself.

  6. “I often got lonely playing with myself” (located somewhere in the beginning of the podcast) … why the hell haven’t you people started to make fun of me 😛

  7. I am done with this podcast and this site altogether. My reasoning:

    You guys are completely and totally out of touch and full of hate.
    You are not informative and you don’t seem to know what is relevant and what the current player base is concerned with.
    You don’t even seem to play the game. You seem to be living in the past, like a year or two ago.
    I could go on through the whole podcast and quote many statements were flat out wrong and show how clueless and out of touch you are, but i wont, since they were so very many and i am not willing to spend the time, since i already wasted an hour.
    You hit the bottom and i doubt that you will resurface any time soon.
    I just doubt you will even look into this criticism seriously and start to play this game or at least get guests that do, that’s why i give up on you altogether.

  8. There does seem to be a very negative tone which is disappointing. 1.05 has gone a long way to changing the game and it has revived my friends list. A lot of item specific builds have come around too with some legendarily offering cost reductions/damage buffs on specific skills which make some interesting builds.

    Perhaps your next podcast could be about things they got right. In this podcast you did allude to many of those things and perhaps focusing on that would be a good episode. They did get a lot of the combat specifics right.

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