Shrine Proc Broken on Ahavarion, Spear of Lycander?

Shrine Proc Broken on Ahavarion, Spear of Lycander?

Fans complaining in a thread on bugs forum that DiabloWikiAhavarion, Spear of Lycander is broken and never procs the random shrine effect property. Blue reply says it does, so perhaps more testing required? Shrine Proc Broken on Ahavarion, Spear of Lycander:

Ahavarion, Spear of Lycander effect

This legendary staff, despite the name, has the effect “Chance on killing a demon to gain a random Shrine effect”.

I got this item today and tried killing some demons with it to test the proc of the special ability. I started the game in the Royal Audience quest and killed every snake demon until the entrance to the sewers. It did not even proc once. The I went to Skycrown Battlements and still had no luck to activate the effect.

Tsarnis: Thanks for all of the reports about this. We’ve tested Ahavarion extensively on our internal environments both before and since the launch of patch 2.1, and we have not observed any situation where the item could not proc. The proc rate is low however, due to the potential power you can gain when the item does proc.

To confirm, are any of you saying you have never seen Ahavarion proc, or simply that it procs rarely? If you are reporting that this does not proc regularly, then that is not a bug. If you are reporting that you have never once seen it proc after significant use (significant meaning you have killed hundreds of demons with it), please try to provide me some additional information on what your gear and skill setup looked like when you were using this item so that we can try to test around any item or skill interactions you had in play at the time.

Thanks again!

The OP knows the difference, but I’d suggest that a lot of players with this weapon don’t realize that “demon” isn’t just a synonym for “monster” in Diablo games. It’s a specific type of enemy, making up around 1/3 of the total enemies. You can kill Cultists and Goatmen and Skeletons and Zombies and other Act One riffraff all day with this item, and you’ll never see the proc since none of those are demons. You need to be in parts of Act 3, or especially in Act 4 or Act 5 (or a Rift with those types of enemies) to see a majority of enemies as demons, and get the proc regularly.

BTW, looking at the DiabloWikiAhavarion, Spear of Lycander (which is actually a staff, not a spear, because Blizzard hates people who update wikis) page in the, and then comparing to newly-found Patch 2.1 versions from the DiabloNut Armory… man, that Patch 2.1 DPS buff to two-handers is crazy. Check the comparison screens below; from ~2700 to ~3700 DPS is quite the DPS buff.

Ahavarion, pre-patch 2.1
Ahavarion, pre-patch 2.1
Ahavarion, post-patch 2.1
Ahavarion, post-patch 2.1

I’m conflicted about the 2H weapon damage buff. It certainly made 2H weapons more viable, but that’s a mixed blessing since they’re so lame/slow to use. My new HSea Monk just got to 70 this week, and she was dragging around a 2H weapon most of the way to 70 and beyond. Thankfully last night I found DiabloWikiVengeful Wind, the Monk DiabloWikiSeasonal Legendary Fist that grants +3 stacks of DiabloWikiSweeping Wind, and I immediately started dual wielding that with a DiabloWikiMad Monarch’s Scepter.

It was a slight DPS drop from the parade of ~3400 DPS 2H Legendaries I kept finding, but the proc is awesome and the hitting speed is much more fun and yields much more Spirit, and was good enough to dominate T1 even in HC with half my kit still Rare/junk.

Maybe it’s just me, though. Are you guys enjoying the 2H weapons with such big DPS? Players/classes/builds that don’t require or focus on fast attacking should find them delightful, yes?

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8 thoughts on “Shrine Proc Broken on Ahavarion, Spear of Lycander?

  1. It really depends on the weapon. I found a Fury of the Vanished Peak and it made my Lightning Barb much more fun to use (and powerful!) until a kind soul gifted me the other piece of Bul-Kathos' set. It's a shame Daibos still seem to be absolutely terrible for Monks despite being a signature weapon.

    • Daibo's aren't bad at all (and I'm not just talking about Flying Dragon), they merely require different stat priorities to shine, mostly more passive Spirit regen. Tzo Krin's Gaze and the Incense Torch of the Grand Temple or Madstone and The Flow of Eternity are pretty viable combos. Similarly the Staff of Kyro works really well with Depth Diggers and Simplicity's Strength. Also, Sunwoko's set is amazing.

      The main problem with 2h weapons for Monks is only that it's easier to put together a viable build (gogo generator spam with Sweeping Wind) while dual-wielding two 1h weapons, even completely random ones. Once you get a few specific items though the power of 2h weapons will show.

      It's also worth mentioning that at the moment one of the top builds for Monks involves Flying Dragon and Sunwoko's, so 2h weapons can't be that bad.

  2. Staff of Kyro, Depth Diggers and Simplicity's Strength really work well for my monk. Currently at + 190% damage for deadly reach. Now hoping that a second piece of the SWK will drop, then the damage output will be T6+ worthy.

  3. I found one of these the other day, so after trying and failing to equip it on my crusader for testing (lol spear = staff herp derp, my wizard took it for a spin in the more demon-infested parts of Act 3. Cleared the majority of the act, not a single proc.

    From what I found with google-fu, the staff procs about once an hour if you're specifically targeting demons. So yeah, I found 5X more shrines trying to proc the item once, than the item would have ever gotten me. But wait! It works with the shrine gloves no one uses anymore! So… Uhm. Yeah it's useless unless you want to give up a more useful weapon/weapon combo and grind bounty bags in an annoying act to get a mildly useful combination that only works1/6 of the time best-case.

    I sharded it with no regrets.

  4. I'm using Inna's Daibo on the PTR right now with sunwuko's krelm's set the crudest boots, and the hexing pants with my 150 paragon monk doing level 27 greater rifts solo. So no Daibos are in a supremely better place than before. Especially with sunwuko's 2 pc and 4 pc.

    the sad part now is that basically the only high torment monks are all using daibos/Flying Dragon (which I have, but it needs Ramaladni's) and I need Inna's belt to really take advantage of.

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