Covered by the fig leaf?

    Covered by the fig leaf?

    Buried in the fine print for the Season Four/Patch 2.3 release date was a tidbit about the current non-seasonal leaderboards and what will happen to them when Season 3 ends and all the seasonal characters merge back in with the Non-Seasonal characters. Nothing, that’s what’ll happen. Currently there are not plans to end/lock/freeze the NS Leaderboards, which has outraged many Non-Season players.

    Patch 2.3 = Non-Season Leaderboard Reset Outrage! Here’s the quote:

    Once the Season ends, all Seasonal Leaderboards will be wiped and you will be unable to attain new Leaderboard ranks until the next Season begins. The results of the previous Season’s Leaderboards will remain available for viewing in-game. Once the new Season begins, a handy drop-down menu will allow you swap between the current and previous Season records.

    Don’t forget that you can also view current and past Leaderboards right here on our website.

    The non-Seasonal Greater Rift Leaderboard will be unaffected by the end of Season and you’ll still be able to compete on them with your non-Seasonal heroes (including those who have just rolled over). These Leaderboards will be reset at a later date; we’ll have more information available as the end of the Era draws nearer!

    Underlined added for effect. The issue is that Seasonal heroes have had 4 months to build up perfect gear, including great rolls on various season-only legendary items that are often key to making various builds work. The people who have been toiling in S3 non-seasonal think their records will be obliterated by Seasonal chars after they merge, especially since Seasonal players will all get a big Paragon boost once their seasonal EXP adds in.

    So what’s likely to happen? How much higher (if at all) are the Seasonal leaderboards, compared to the current non-seasonal? Click through for the grim details…


  • Non-Season: #1 GR64, #10 GR59, #100 GR56.
  • Season: #1 GR63, #10 GR60, #100 GR56.
  • Crusader:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR60, #10 GR58, #100 GR54.
  • Season: #1 GR64, #10 GR59, #100 GR56.
  • Demon Hunter:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR64, #10 GR60, #100 GR57.
  • Season: #1 GR65, #10 GR61, #100 GR58.
  • Monk

  • Non-Season: #1 GR59, #10 GR56, #100 GR53.
  • Season: #1 GR63, #10 GR60, #100 GR55.
  • Witch Doctor:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR60, #10 GR57, #100 GR53.
  • Season: #1 GR61, #10 GR57, #100 GR53.
  • Wizard:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR62, #10 GR59, #100 GR55.
  • Season: #1 GR65, #10 GR60, #100 GR56.
  • Two Player:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR70, #10 GR66, #100 GR62.
  • Season: #1 GR71, #10 GR68, #100 GR62.
  • Three Player:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR72, #10 GR71, #100 GR66.
  • Season: #1 GR75, #10 GR73, #100 GR66.
  • Four Player:

  • Non-Season: #1 GR74, #10 GR74, #100 GR71.
  • Season: #1 GR77, #10 GR75, #100 GR70.
  • everything_went_better_than_expected-s320x242-169732Okay, so… actually, I’m surprised the numbers are so close. In solo, aside from Monks and a few #1 rank outliers, the Seasonal Leadersboards are virtually the same. And since (Non-Season players get ready to object) the most active and aggressive players are doing Seasonal (10h a day streamer type players, certainly) you would actually expect the Seasonal scores to be higher.

    The story is a bit different in multiplayer Leaderboards, with much higher GRs cleared in Seasonal. Or are they? They are at the #1 and #10 ranks, but when you get down to #100, the S and NS are nearly identical. So does this represent some inherent advantage for Seasonal parties, or just the fact that, again, the most active and skilled players are doing Seasonal, and pushing the very top of the Leaderboards higher?

    That said, even if there aren’t huge competitive advantages for Seasonal characters, it seems pretty stupid to merge all the Seasonal chars in with the Non-Seasonal, in terms of Leaderboards. Most players chose to play S or NS for the duration of the season, and the final Leaderboard rankings should archive that. Not just archive Seasonal, while throwing Non-Seasonal Leaderboards into chaos by dropping in the entire Seasonal player population for just a few days before the next Patch drops.

    Finally, note that Blizzard used the same wording about S2 S vs. NS Era 2 leaderboards, and then decided to lock/archive the NS boards before the characters merged. So maybe they’ll come to their senses and do the same thing this time?

    Do you guys care about this? Think Bliz is being dumb? Think the NS players are just QQing when they should be grinding and putting their Paragon point advantage to better use?

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