Loot 2.0 Timetable and Diablo 3 Progress Updates?


A fan asked for some ETA on Loot 2.0. The reply was about what you’d expect, but it’s worth considering the larger issue. First, the blueage:

Any idea on when we are gonna see Loot2.0?
Grimiku: We don’t yet have a release date for all the changes included in Loot 2.0. Our goal, however, is to release some of the new features we’ve discussed for Reaper of Souls with a pre-expansion patch. Loot 2.0 changes are definitely something we’d like to be a part of that patch, but there are still things that have to be taken care of before we’ll have any additional information to share about it.

We’ll be posting updates about the pre-expansion patch, Reaper of Souls, and Loot 2.0 itself as we iron out the details, so be sure to keep an eye out for them.

We’re all expecting an update and more details on DiabloWikiLoot 2.0, plus a bunch more Reaper of Souls stuff at Blizzcon next month. Perhaps we’ll get more of a timetable then, but I wouldn’t count on it. What we do know is that the DiabloWikiAuction House will be shut down on 18 March, 2014. It’s widely assumed that Loot 2.0 will come to D3C at that time: 1) not earlier since all the new gear would instantly flood the AH and defeat the purpose of Loot 2.0’s DiabloWikiIronborn enabling, and 2) not later since the current game’s drop odds aren’t palatable to most players without the very fluid buying/selling that the AH provides.

How about DiabloWikiParagon 2.0 for D3C? RoS will certainly launch with Paragon 2.0, but when (if ever) will it be added into D3C? Before/with/after Loot 2.0? Before RoS for a trial run? Simultaneous with RoS? DiabloWikiLadders are also expected in the future, but it’s not clear if they’ll launch with RoS, or post-release, and when they’ll be implemented into D3C.

The most logical sequence of events seems to be AH-shutdown and Loot 2.0 in March, Reaper of Souls expansion some months after that, and then ladders (definitely in Ros and probably in D3C) some months after that. Note the staggered timeline there, giving players something new and exciting every few months. That’s purely speculation, though. Nothing official has been said on any timeline for anything.

Anyone wants to weigh in on the likely sequence of events, hit the comments; I’m curious if there’s any real agreement on the timing of the upcoming changes.

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  1. “We want to implement a lot of the new systems and features in a pre-expansion patch for free. That should include Paragon 2.0, Loot 2.0, Loot Runs, and Nephalem Trials. For now, you’ll need to purchase the expansion to play as the Crusader, explore Act V, unlock the Mystic, and level up to 70. These details may change as development moves along, but we want some of the core gameplay improvements to be available for everyone.”

    That quote isn’t new but contains all information except the date: one free patch before the expansion and it will include paragon 2.0.

    • directly from the quote in the news above
      “Loot 2.0 changes are definitely something we’d like to be a part of that patch, but there are still things that have to be taken care of before we’ll have any additional information to share about it.”

      that seems to contradict the quote you gave

      • Your Blue-Quote is only carefully written, nevertheless the information we are given is the same. Of course there are things that must be discussed and information we have jet to see. Nothing is set in stone.

  2. Honestly, I don’t think it would be that much of a problem if Loot 2.0 hit before the AH falls; in fact, I would guess that in Blizzard’s ideal schedule, Loot 2.0 will hit before the AH goes away (probably a week or two before). The whole point of Loot 2.0 is that it is supposed to reward players for playing the game, rather than playing the AH. More high-end loot will drop, and the loot that drops will be better (at least, in theory). As a result, the AH shouldn’t really be important once Loot 2.0 hits; even if it gets flooded with great items, theoretically people should be finding enough good items that they won’t feel the need to go to the AH, and it will exist only really for the min-maxers who feel a burning need to completely optimize their characters.

    That said, I would imagine that Paragon 2.0 will come first, probably in early-late February. Then, in early March, Loot 2.0 will hit, so that if there are problems with drops being still too little and too bad, Blizzard can fix them, rather than having the AH go down and then having players complain that the fix was too little, too late. Finally, the AH will close on March 18, 2014. I would hope that RoS hits in early-late April, but I would guess that it will be released on May 15, 2014. That date is the 2-year anniversary of Diablo III, and from a sentimental POV it would make sense for the game-fixing expansion to come out on the game’s anniversary day.

    That said, all of this is assuming that RoS beta does not come out sooner. Blizzard has stated that they hope to have the beta out by the end of the year, though I personally feel that by Blizzard’s counting, this is too optimistic, and that beta will probably hid mid-late January 2014. Nevertheless, undoubtedly, all of the features scheduled for D3C-patching and RoS will be included in the RoS beta, so that the Devs can test to make sure that everything is working the way they want it to. Thus, I think that we will get features in the game/expansion depending on how the Devs think the beta is going; the better things work in the beta, the sooner we’ll get them patched into D3C or updated in RoS.

  3. March 17th (monday), (RM)AH shutdown + loot 2.0 + active/passive skill changes in 1 patch.
    June 17th (tuesday), Global release sales of RoS including Paragon 2.0, Crusader, Extra act + enabling the crusader loot 2.0 table.

    I don’t care for ladder/PvP so nevermind on guessing such 😉

  4. I think Loot 2.0 will come with the pre-expansion patch. Which (based on WoW pacing) usually comes about a month before release. So, I optimistically hope they get that sucker out a few days after AH shut down, with xpac in April.

    Orrr… they could care less what people do with pre-expansion loot and just give us the patch well before AH shut down, since that Mar 18 date could be considerate of various other things. Especially if RoS has hundreds of items exclusive to the expansion, much in the way D2X had items you could only get from buying the pack. So it’s not a big deal if they let us buy up all the Loot 2.0 Sledge Fist’s, as they’ll only be replaced with new better level 70 versions, or just new items entirely when RoS comes.

  5. You confuse me with your D3C , some sites (like reddit) use it for “Diablo 3 console”.
    I am assuming you mean Diablo 3 core?

  6. Long story short: we’ll se Loot 2.0 after the expansion.

  7. If Blizzard is smart they’ll release the new loot system BEFORE removing the AH, that way they can regain the confidence they lost from the last half dozen or so failed loot patches, or at least fix the flaws in time so it actually works as intended. Since level 60 items will be made irrelevant ANYWAYS, there is absolutely no harm in this.

    • They wouldn’t get very useful feedback about Loot 2.0 with the AH still in the game in my opinion. People would still buy stuff on the AH and complain about low drop chances. No, the new loot system is designed for an environment without an AH. Implementing and testing it with an AH makes no sense whatsoever, as it would only impede the devs’ efforts to balance it well.

  8. So here’s the thing. There are 29 days left until Blizzcon. Now, I am not a video game developer, but I do a lot of presentations / speeches in my walk of life. You always have your material ready to go at least a week before “the big day” so you can practice your presentation over and over again. For Blizzard, it would not surprise me if they want to be done two weeks in advance just to get all their ducks in a row.

    So why is this alarming? The amount of stuff that they seem like they don’t have a hot clue with what to do yet, such as substitute for AH removal, still tinkering with Paragon Points, ladder systems, is making me uncomfortable. And this is stuff that they have recently talked about in Blizz posts and on Twitter…

    • They did pretty good presentations on paragon and loot 2.0 and such at gamescom with that stuff all still on the drawing board. All blizzcons pre-d3 had presentations of WiP stuff as well, so I don’t think finalizing the fine print of features in November, when they won’t be be released until March at the very soonest, is a big deal.

      Also, fans like to feel that their input is being valued and considered and that the devs are listening, so I think Bliz plays up that “tell us what features you want?” more for getting our attention than really wanting open source feature brainstorming. For example:
      http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/blizzard-survey-diablo-3-players-on-reaper-of-souls-pricing-and-features

  9. QUOTE

    So here's the thing. There are 29 days left until Blizzcon. Now, I am not a video game developer, but I do a lot of presentations / speeches in my walk of life. You always have your material ready to go at least a week before "the big day" so you can practice your presentation over and over again. For Blizzard, it would not surprise me if they want to be done two weeks in advance just to get all their ducks in a row.
    
    So why is this alarming? The amount of stuff that they seem like they don't have a hot clue with what to do yet, such as substitute for AH removal, still tinkering with Paragon Points, ladder systems, is making me uncomfortable. And this is stuff that they have recently talked about in Blizz posts and on Twitter...

    Exactly why they must regain consumer confidence. Very few people would trust someone to make large scale sweeping changes blind if they DIDN’T have a track history of persistent screw ups. Especially if they have a reputation of being actively deceptive.

  10. There is quite the difference between not knowing what to do yet, and not telling.
    They probably have decided a great deal about these things by now.

    Until they change it all 1 month before release that is.

  11. Soulja Boy wishes loot 2.0 was out now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyQFL-sNKI

    But on a more serious note: It’s probably best to wait for Blizzcon for dates and stuff. Also ideally the loot 2.0 patch ships before the auctionhouse goes down. It’s sort of a max possible date for this patch. D3 with the current item system and no AH would be quite bad.

  12. I would be surprised if there was any major patches before ros as it would only cheapen the xpak from a feely stand point. Plus I like all this PTR info and test stuff. However, some minor changes would be welcomed like larger stash on console or at least allowing for more upgrades since its not hogging up any server space or what not. The game really needs better sets and more of them, it still feels very weak and there’s not much info coming in about new sets and crafting seems to be neglected. So I hope they fix that before hand, still a lot of work to do imo or its just going to need a tonne of patches to get it right anyhoo.

  13. I, Clavdivs, The God, have decided that Loot2.0 will be in use at March 28th, after AH is closed, as a part of same patch.

    It is divine will and it will be obeyed.

    No vague answers from misinformed or openly lying community-slaves (remember: Bashiok) pointing to the months old ‘articles’ and ‘blog-spots’ saying virtually nothing will be taken seriously.

    Heavenly being won’t allow any more meaningless speculations on this topic.

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