Vote: Diablo 3 Seasonal Ladder Characters are Optional?

patch 2.1.0 seasonsBlue post reminding players that seasons are option. You can create and play seasonal characters on the ladders with some or lots or all or none of your play time. Diablo 3 Seasonal Ladder Characters are Optional:

I really want to play ladder, but I really want to have a very good character and continue to upgrade my level 70 wizard.
Tyvalir: You can absolutely play your Seasonal characters and continue to play your non-Seasonal ones on the side. (That’s what I’ll be doing, too.)

Those who want to stay at the top of the Leaderboards will need to play their Seasonal character(s) regularly, but there’s no rule that says you have to play for the entire Season. For instance, you could complete the Conquests and hunt down the Season-exclusive Legendary items you want before switching to play your non-Seasonal characters for the duration.

If you don’t play on the ladder, the season-only legendaries will roll into the normal loot pool (ie, your current 70) at the season’s conclusion.
Tyvalir: CyberGoat beat me to it (or perhaps bleat me to it)! Seasonal Legendary items will roll over into the non-Seasonal loot pool after the current Season ends. Items, gold, blood shards, crafting materials, Paragon experience, Artisan progression, achievements, and any new recipes or stash tabs earned during the Season will also roll over.

More information can be found here.

Counter this post, most players I’ve talked to about seasons seem to be thinking all or nothing. Either they’re very eager for a fresh start and want to throw themselves into the season and race up the ladders, or at least play them with all of their (limited) gaming time… or they tell me they’re not going to play ladder seasonal characters at all, and will just play their current chars.

So, let’s assemble some stats to compare to those anecdotes. What are you guys planning to do some Season One, on the live realm?

Will you create char(s) in Diablo 3 Season One?

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  1. I'm very surprised at the breakdown so far.

    • I am not surprised at all. A small percentage of the people who play D3 are the source for a very large percentage of the chatter. The small percentage is very interested in the ladder system and the large percentage , the silent majority, is much less interested. That has been my take from the beginning.Hey I might be wrong but this pole is consistent with my thought process.

      I believe that this is the way it is for most things (real life situations).

  2. If/when I reroll, I will certainly do it with a seasonal character, but I’m not sure how soon that will be. I tend to play conservatively, so HC deaths are few and far between. Also, it takes me quite some time to hit 70, so each new character is a big investment even before reaching the end game, and with the new Greater Rifts, I might be having too much fun loot hunting to make a new character just to access seasons.

  3. The results are surprising. If on a serious D3 fansite 32% of people say they won't do seasons, I can only imagine the average playerbase will ignore seasons.

    I mean no hate, but D3 is just too shallow for seasons. Everybody finds the 1-70 grind boring…except streamers being paid to play.

    Rather than D3, I'm actually very excited for the Path of Exile Rampage league starting August 20. PoE's leveling process is fun because you can find really great items that last for ages, just like Diablo 2. And Rampage has fun new D3-like massacres and combat bonuses it looks like.

    So in truth I just want patch 2.1…I care nothing for seasons or ladders since no person with a real life will *ever* be on the leaderboards.

  4. I feEl the seasonal are a good addition bur for a player such as myself that does not have the time to invest in something like that I would be look more for content than something I have to invest a lot of time into to try to become the best because that is the only way to get rewarded

  5. I put I don't know. I haven't played in months and I just don't know that seasons/greater rifts are enough to come back for. I know there will be some new items in seasons, but there is zero new content. I just don't count greater rifts as new content. Its just a slightly more complex rift that introduces gems. Just another thing you have to grind out. The repetitiveness of this type of game gets to me. (Diablo is still my favorite franchise) There is only so much of it that I can do before it all feels the same and I start to ask "Why am I doing this?"

    I love the combat, and have had tons of fun. But I want new content. Doesn't have to be major story lines. Just new bosses and areas/dungeons. Mini stories to expand the Diablo-verse between major story progressions.

    • I should also mention this about seasons. I just don't have the time available to compete with teens and streamers and other folks who can get home from work and play for 7-8 hours a day. So the whole "ladder" part is a total non starter. Playing for the items/achievements "might" still be fun.

      We'll see. I'm sure I'll give it a whirl but I'm not sure I've recovered from the Diablo burnout that I always achieve.

      I still love the community which is why I bother taking the time read this site and to chime in.

      • I don't know if Blizzard exactly cares if many/any/most/etc play ladders. It's not like they make extra money from seasonal char or something. And unlike D2 where ladders were needed to reset the dupe-filled economy every now and then, that's not an issue in D3. Not dupes and all BoA even if there were.

        So maybe that's why a lot of fans aren't really interested in seasons, since they're not really needed? Fun if you want a fresh start, but the only different content is just a few new legendary items.

        I don't know if people think Bliz should be offering more promotions to encourage ladder play? But it wouldn't be hard for them to do. Bonus double exp or MF weekend events, make Greed's Domain ladder only, chance of double leg drops, chance for bonus paragon levels instantly, etc. Plenty of ways they could incentivize more people to do ladders, if they wished.

        But should they?

        • Blizzard never wanted to ladders in the first place remember. That's why its taking them so long. There were just to many people that wouldn't come back unless they did.

          I know i wont be doing ladders.

        • I think from the standpoint that Blizzard has probably invested a lot of time (money) into implementing ladders, I would think they'd have to be disappointed if less than half of the player base gets involved. At least by this pole, almost 60% decidedly less than enthusiastic about seasons…

  6. I'll be doing each season once, 1-70, just to get the special transmog. After that, don't care, I'll get the legendary items later. Mostly it gives me a chance to try out new character changes and still get the benefit of being in a season. Kind of. If you consider transmog a benefit. I like to play dress up leave me alone.

    • I think I'll be doing the same. Unless I get a new item that I can't put down.

    • Oh good point. I forgot about the level 70 transmog unlock. I don't even like to play dress up but that is still tempting! …though to be a bit cynical…it sort of feels like Blizzard knows leveling up is boring so they offered this as a sort of bribe…

      Plenty of people have suggested they make all seasonal characters start at level 70. This would let everybody jump into the real loot hunt from the start. But I understand why Blizzard doesn't do this…doing it would basically be an admission that leveling up is boring.

    • I don't think you guys have played/investigated the PTR… While I realize the ladders will be DOMINATED by the Asia/Pac people the legendary gems (and their upgrade) make at least ONE pass through the Ladder system for the base gems is a MUST!!!

  7. For me it kinda depends on how Seasons work. Do I also need to run through all the story again? Or can I jump straight into adventure mode? The Campaign feels like such a slog now. Guess you could rush through on Normal.

  8. Seasons in D3 are quite meaningless, since you can hit the 70s in few hours of dedicated grinding, as opposed to crazy long D2 level 99 grind. So that means most no-lifers will gain level 70 the day the season starts and those that come late to party are out of luck, since there are only first 1000 spots for achievement. And what is the point of rolling new char then, if you get nothing for it?

    And greater rifts look unimpressive so far too, so only good thing about 2.1 will be the skill rebalance and tweaks.

  9. Even with my limited playtime I'm going to play seasons exclusively.
    To try and compete in the race to 70 isn't realistic. The fresh start every once in a while and chance to find the new legendaries are enough drive for me.

    This is basically how I played D2 ladders so I'm looking forward to it.

  10. I do not play enough to invest in seasons. I think the main point is loosing the artisans, loosing the parangon points and restart from scratch. What a chore. Sure, for someone who plays a lot, this is minor but, for me, even rerolling a char to 70 takes 10-15 hours and is already quite long. That is with the accumulated parangon points, the artisans available and some money/gems in the bank. Restarting from scratch every few months is not worth when you have not already reached your goal in the actual game.

    I could be tempted once to do a season, just for the small challenge of leveling a self-loot HC toon from 0 to 70. Another interest could be to play with friends that are starting the game now and to have a clean slate to play with them. Besides that, I do not see the interest in seasons.

  11. If they really wanted to encourage season play, they should give some kinda reward for season characters rolled over into non-season, like a massive gold/XP burst based on number of achievement points earned.

  12. I will play season for transmog only. Are there different sets for SC and HC? A new set for each season?

  13. Basically, "lol no"

    Add more content, rather than using your artists' and devs' time on some epeen stuff that no one cares about, Blizz.

    Just because the bleating masses of complainers indicated that they really wanted ladders didn't make it a good time investment.

    Instead, maybe rehash the Infernal Machine so that it doesn't feel awful playing solo and so the drop rates aren't stupid (fragments instead of drop odds), maybe add some very quick challenges (right now, there's no reason for you to log into D3 if you only have 10-15 minutes to play), or do something that's actually interesting/challenging/tactical rather than just encouraging people to go fast like they're bored of playing Super Street Fighter II Turbo Edition on their Sega Genesis and start doing the Time Attack mode just because they have nothing better to do.

  14. I take a much different view and the results are not at all surprising. This site is representative of mid+ range enthusiasts who may have a large investment in the current characters. The larger \silent majority\ of the player base eschew forums/discussion and simply play the game.

    I doubt Blizz will fail to properly incentives the ladders, and only the vocal minority rabble-rousers will remain clinging to their plvl, steadfastly refusing to step foot into the coldness of a fresh start.

    Crossing my fingers, hoping for long seasons and great rewards!

  15. I would like to vote for 'I'd like to play seasons but storage space kills it for me'.

  16. Agreed Mark978, I expected the results to look something like this. With a fansite I expect people to be wary about walking away from characters they have logged hundreds (thousands?) of hours with. Personally I just remember the best part of DII being a new ladder season, people actually work together and most drops make a huge difference.

  17. In D2 there is more than one way of going through the game. Starting over and doing it differently? Some like that. (Obligatory bit about JSP out of game farming)

    In D3 you have a very long very linear track. Who wants to go back? Not SC and hell, not HC.

    • I'm sorry, what are the "more than one way"s to go through d2? Do you mean having a friend give you the waypoints to skip most of the game so you can get right to leeching xp off of baal runs? Such diversity!

      If you're playing single player d2, it is just like single player d3 – some quests are required, and some are optional. Except there's way more optional quests in d3, and which ones you get change each time.

      I am beyond enthused for seasons and ladder rushing. I have only played hardcore for awhile now since I knew seasons were incoming to give SC a whole new purpose.

  18. A trick question there. I'm planning to play mostly seasons UNTIL I get all (or most) season-only achievements and conquests and then I'll switch to my regular characters. I'm not planning to hunt seasonal legendaries and unless some will fall into my lap I'll wait 'till they get rolled in the regular game.

  19. So these seasons are pretty useless at all.The items will become available after the season ends so playin the season has no point.No big rewards or w/e unique only for the player which played exactly this season. When there is no such thing= useless seasons. Improve the game system fuck the seasons!

  20. Hey I’m not sure if anyone could help but my main character is a monk and I chose the witch doctor as my seasonal character but would still like the to find the legendaries for my monk do they roll for the character you are in seasons or is it all random?

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