Blue On D3 Region Unlocking, Global RMAH Issues, and More


Shortly before Xmas, Bashiok made a bunch of replies on all sorts of RMAH and D3 realm type topics in one forum thread. The main discussion was a rebuttal to another of those “RMAH legal woes are delaying D3!” conspiracy theory posts, but once everyone got sick of that the discussion branched out a bit.

Below you can see a few excerpts of the new/interesting stuff; click through to read the whole mega thread in order.

can I play with friends from other regions? live in SEA. I make a Character in SEA. Can I play with my friend who stays in EU and has an EU Character? (play with my friend = go on boss runs with him etc.)
You can, but you’d need to log in to the EU region and create a character to begin playing with him, or he’d need to make one in your region. If you’re on your character in SEA and he’s on his in EU you’d be able to talk to each other using your BattleTag or Real ID, but that’s it. You have to be on the same region to play together.

Is the GAH global or not? This would mean it’s possible to trade across “realms,” wouldn’t it?
The gold auction house is not global. You can use each region’s gold auction house, but they’re all separate, as the characters in each region are separate. You can only use the currency-based auction house of your home region.

Any chance for the switching of regions? (like the switching of Realms in WOW?) I mean, there might be people migrating or going overseas to work/study and they want to switch their characters from lets say, the EU server, to the US server?
No plans at this time. I would count it among ‘pretty unlikely’ due to the real currency ramifications.

As far as I know, this is the first time anyone from Blizzard has confirmed that Diablo III will not be region locked like Starcraft 2 was. From what Bashiok says here, we’ll (probably) be able to play with friends on other realms all around the world, without buying multiple copies of Diablo III. Which is great news.

One question not answered; is the punitive 10-character limit enforced globally? Or could we enjoy a wider variety of character options by spreading our attentions across multiple realms? You’d have to start over from scratch each time, since you could not twink anything between realms, but that would actually be a plus for lots of players who want a fresh challenge when they start a new character, rather than inheriting already leveled Artisans, mandatory gold sharing, etc.


Here’s the full thread, in sequence.

1st fact: Robert Bridenbecker, Vice President of Online Technologies at Blizzard, when asked about regions for D3 states at 10:30 in a live interview that, “you’re just buying Diablo 3, you can play it anywhere”, and goes on to explain that while there are region based RMAH’s users will be free to choose whatever RMAH they want to use from anywhere in the world. So it’s a fact that D3 is not a region locked game, it’s a fact that Blizz is releasing one game worldwide, anyone who has the game will be able to choose their server and their RMAH.

I’m assuming you’re not purposefully misquoting him to try to make your post factual. Let me go ahead and transcribe what he actually says in the video you linked:

“You’re just buying Diablo III. You can play it anywhere in the world. So you guys get to choose. Now what we will do is we will lock you down to a specific auction house. So for instance if you’re a European national you’ll have access to the European auction house, but you’ll still be able to play in North America. You can participate in the gold auction house anywhere in the world, right, but you can only participate in the real money auction house in your native country.”

Which sort of makes the rest of your post baseless in its conclusions. But that’s ok! I appreciate everyone trying to unravel the secrets, and it’s fun for me to read, so keep at it. 🙂


It seems to me that the wording of your quote suggests that you will be able to log into any region’s servers, trade with their players either directly or through their gold AHs, but only use your region’s RMAH. Thus, the economies of the different regions will be linked? What prevents people from buying multiple versions of the game for different regions, linking multiple regions economies, and using that to their advantage in whichever region’s RMAH suits them best?
Characters are still region based. Just like Diablo II. You could log in to USWest, or USEast, or Europe, or Asia, but you had different characters on each. There’s no possibility of trading between regions.


Bash gets paid to troll. That must be a fun job right?
You have an odd definition of trolling.


Bashiok states here they spent a “very long time” working with legal departments around the globe and obtained all government approvals. Everything was set and “sound” from legal perspective.
I’m sort of taken aback now… How are so many people directly misquoting or misinterpreting things while simultaneously linking to the exact source that proves what they’re saying is inaccurate?

What I said was:

“We’ve spent a very long time working with our legal departments around the globe researching regional laws and regulations, if not obtaining government approvals. We announced the feature because we know it to be sound from a legal perspective. If any local or country-specific laws do become an issue we’ll of course be sure to let people in those regions know. “

All of that is true, and continues to be true to this day.


To be honest Bash we are ALL sick of waiting and people I think are just trying to come up with why. This game has taken waaay to long and it shouldn’t have been announced yet imo.
Oh, I know. That’s why I think it’s a fun diversion. I really shouldn’t get all crazy over it, I understand the reasons for it.


Oh Bashiok, please say you did not resort to this? How about you step through each of the posters “baseless” claims on an individual basis, instead of using a logical fallacy to aid you?
Uh. What? I resorted to clarifying the one mistake in the post that was the basis for the entire argument. How is that a logical fallacy? I don’t think you understand what that means.


Hey Bashiok instead of being a condecending troll why don’t you tell what is going on instead of making your consumers guess what the hell is going on.
We have. We don’t have a release date. We’re shooting for early 2012. That’s it. People coming to our forums and accusing us of lying has nothing to do with anything, and frankly it’s within my purview to inform people of exactly where they stand. If someone believes they know what they’re talking about, and they don’t, it’s my position to inform them of that and attempt to provide some information if not education. Without being intentionally condescending or mean, of course (I don’t feel I was). Most of the time I just like chatting about stuff, but if me disagreeing with someone or correcting their statements is offensive, I can only recommend steering clear of my replies because it’s absolutely my intent to dispel misconceptions and squash rumors when warranted (and able).


Can we go back to being excited for Diablo III? 🙂
(or at least a holiday break and the much game playing it should hold)

If anyone wants to ask a question, feel free, and I’ll do my best to answer it directly and honestly, but this game of people misreading the corrections I’ve posted of someone misreading something is making my brain tie up in knots. I’m not going to clarify why anyone was wrong any more, I’ll just answer questions, that seems to be easier.

Please answer my question then! Whether I can play with friends from other regions! Like I live in SEA. I make a Character in SEA. Can I play with my friend who stays in EU and has an EU Character? (play with my friend = go on boss runs with him etc.)
You can, but you’d need to log in to the EU region and create a character to begin playing with him, or he’d need to make one in your region. If you’re on your character in SEA and he’s on his in EU you’d be able to talk to each other using your BattleTag or Real ID, but that’s it. You have to be on the same region to play together.

Is the GAH global or not? This would mean it’s possible to trade across “realms,” wouldn’t it?
The gold auction house is not global. You can use each region’s gold auction house, but they’re all separate, as the characters in each region are separate. You can only use the currency-based auction house of your home region.


I was under the impression that I would be able to switch my currency from USD to Peso’s whenever I pleased, being an American citizen/resident. But I wouldn’t be able to switch to a Euro AH unless I proved that I “moved” to Europe.
That all sounds right to me. I’m not sure of a process to actually flag your account for another region though, even with proof. It’s possible that could happen but I’m not aware of any intent to support that.


Nevermind.. see the topic is RMAH approval in Korea. So is that the real reason for the delay?
No, as explained here:


Any chance for the switching of regions? (like the switching of Realms in WOW?) I mean, there might be people migrating or going overseas to work/study and they want to switch their characters from lets say, the EU server, to the US server?
No plans at this time. I would count it among ‘pretty unlikely’ due to the real currency ramifications.


Perhaps you could clarify whether or not blizzard will be charging a % fee prior to currency moving to paypal or sticking solely with the 2 flat listing fees.
You’re only charged a percentage if you cash out through PayPal.

So it is possible to buy Diablo 3 anywhere in the world, and to make a character in any regional server you choose in this case?
We haven’t announced anything along those lines because as far as I know it’s not nailed down. We do pursue different business models and prices in different regions, and so we’d want to ensure that those offerings are for who they’re intended. I just don’t have specifics for you, but it’s something we’ll need to announce before ship.

How does one get assigned a home region?
That’s not something we’re ready to discuss, and obviously we’ll need to choose the information we do give carefully. Circumventing this wouldn’t just be a ‘fun trick on Blizzard’ it would very possibly be a violation of serious trade laws, so we have to take it seriously.

what if you create characters on a different region’s servers? Do those characters have access to your home region’s RMAH, or do those characters simply not have access to any RMAH?
Each region is compartmentalized. Character’s on one region cannot play with characters on another region. Similarly, each region has its own gold and currency-based auction houses. Only characters on a region can use that region’s auction houses (and of course a restriction from the currency-based if it’s not your home region).


What’s the deal with the update on the Korean Bnet site? Is it bad translating that makes it sound like they are saying the delay is because of the RMAH in Korea?
I don’t know what translation you’re reading but no where has it been stated the release of the game on a whole is delayed because of a GRB rating. Might it delay the game in Korea? I suppose no one knows, but we still have some time since the game is not finished. We’re playing internal builds, the entire game, we’d know if it was. I’d know.

Besides that, when you step back and look at a timeline of things (delays, news announcements, adding 2 more “a day in the life…” articles) they line up with GRB happenings.
I’m at a loss for words.

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  1. 10-character limit?
    I think they promised us 50 chars last BlizzCon.

    • That was before they got rid of skill points and respecs.

    • Blizzard being Blizzard…. Also, region lock sucks monkeys balls!!!!
       
      After what Blizzard did with me in WoW I don’t believe in a single promise from them. When they announced the new Brazilian realms they told they would offer free transfers for EVERYONE but when the transfer day came the only eligible realms were the ones that had a large Brazilian population so I couldn’t transfer.

      • Companies don’t actually depend on your love, so breaking up with them has remarkably little effect.
         
        A 10 character server limit is reasonable, a 10 character global limit is not, so I will take a guess that either the limit applies on a per server basis or the limit will be higher than what we’ve seen. See? That’s reasonable talk without post-relationship drama breakdown.

        • Its sad to see people that think like you. Alone I can’t do shit, you are right, but its easy to find people in the same situation I am and do something relevant to change a problem. Its people like me, the ones that refuses to consume a product because they are unhappy with, that have the power to change the world.
          Just look at GoDaddy and all the bad karma it gained because they supported SOPA and people started to boycott them. GoDaddy said the boycott would not affect them but in less than a weak they were beging for people to come back to use their services.
          Also Blizzard is crazy trying to solve the mass leaving from WoW. They lost 1kk players in 3 months because people are growing tired of their stupidity.

    • It sounds like we *MIGHT* get 10 char per region… that is what they do in WoW… 10 per server…

      That would be some help…

  2. My question is how many regions will the US be broken up in?  Will it just be East and West, or will they break it up a little more?

  3. Its going to be interesting if Blizzard creates a South American RMAH so people here can use their own currency to buy items, something that will make the life easier for most of people here. The average population have a lower income compared to rich countries, but most of those people are whiling to starve to death so they can gather money to buy items. Its going to be fun to watch.

  4. Definitely 10 characters per realm/region. You can tell from this quote: “You can use each region’s gold auction house, but they’re all separate, as the characters in each region are separate.”
     
    If characters in each region are separate, as in not on the same servers, not on the same network (besides VPNs they may have across all BNet), then its safe to say they count against your character limit separately as well.

  5. Typical thick yank – guess Europe doesn’t include the many major countries that don’t use the euro,

  6. Apparently early 2012 release date has turned into, shooting for early 2012 release date.  June here we come?

    Duke Nukem forever, A challenger approaches.

  7. “I don’t know what translation you’re reading … Might it delay the game in Korea? I suppose no one knows, …, we’d know if it was. I’d know.”

    lol

  8. If it comes out before Summer time, I’ll be surprised.  

    I understand that Blizzard is doing all the “fine-tuning” right now, but honestly, this stage of development should have started a long time ago.  That game started in development when? 2005?  announced in 2008.  There have been multiple major changes, even just in the last year.  

    I can’t help but think that they were literally doing nothing with the game for the first 2 years of development, and now that 2012 is almost here, they are all like “oh crap, maybe we should actually finish this game.”

  9. I got fed up with those running WoW many years ago. Still I played the game for 5 years… I loved the first three, but it lost its luster when they trashed PVP a couple of times and the game became impossible for me to enjoy. I’m hoping they don’t trash DIII simply because of greed. Since they can’t beat the gold farmers, they decided to join them.. time will tell if their greed destroys the Diablo franchise as well. It isn’t enough for them to create a fantastic sequel to a beloved game series someone got the great idea to create a RMAH so they can get a cut of the action. In essence all they did was make it easier for the farmers to make money. You not being burned by Blizzard before is no surprise, they consistently make last minute changes to something they hyped up… they changes they make last minutes are usually not so advertised… they just hand a script to their support guys to read off to the consumer and the deal is done. I think Blizzard knows that WoW is spiraling down… it won’t die, but the gaudy numbers they pulled in for years are going away permanently. Games like DIII and SWTOR will tie up players they are losing.

  10. Region locks are retarded in general. They only break guilds and communities up and there is no need for them. SWTOR has no region lock and it seems to work great in that regard.

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