A player expressed a common view and got a Blue reply. Will Ancient Items will replace all current gear? Ancient Items in Patch 2.1.2 = Pointless to Play Now?
Looking at those ancient items…it seems everything has to be re-farmed…why does blizzard want to take the easy way out?
Took months to get the gear and with a single patch…much of the effort seems pointless. =(
Nevalistis: The primary intent behind Ancient Items is to give the folks that have everything on their wish list more to search for in the item game. They’re not mandatory for playing the game, and while they’ll help you push a bit further in Greater Rifts as you acquire more of them, they shouldn’t feel like a necessity in other endgame activities.
New players and those returning at the start of Season 2 will also benefit from the new item tier. Finding an Ancient Item early on will feel great, even more so as a rare experience. You shouldn’t expect to fill out all your gear slots with gold borders right away, either. It’s a time investment that becomes easier as you attain higher difficulty levels and better gear, and further incentive to continue pushing your limits.
This might be an irrelevant complaint, since Patch 2.1.2 is imminent. The patch was content-complete before Xmas, was delayed for technical support reasons, and this week’s datamining shows that the patch files are on the servers now. When they’ll go live is unknown, but I’m actually surprised it didn’t go up during last night’s weekly maintenance. Soon?
As for Ancient Items replacing everything… not so much. Potentially, sure, but realistically? No. Patch 2.1.2 is (as far as we can tell) identical to the patch currently on the PTR, and we’ve done a lot of play testing on it, and posted extensive info about Ancient Legendary Items. Check out our last big article for more than 100 screens of Ancient Items, and slot-by-slot analysis.
The take away? Ancient weapons are a huge upgrade and will feel almost mandatory, but ancient armor is only sometimes an upgrade, and ancient jewelry is mostly irrelevant.
Armor seems like it would be a big boost, with up to 250 more to vit/mainstat (the amount varies by item slot, but it’s always at least +100 potential), but the better your current gear, the less likely you’ll replace it with an ancient item of the same type. You’ll find Ancients fairly regularly if you’re able to do T6, but it’s really hard to get just the right combination of affixes on any armor piece, much less the occasional Ancient version. Even after playing up to Paragon 500+ a softcore Demon Hunter in Season Two on the PTR, I was only wearing 6 ancient legendaries, and that was with the +2000% legendary drop rate buff making them extremely easy to find.Yes, Ancient armor and jewelry rolls with around 100-250 more to mainstat or vitality and +30 All Res, compared to current legs… but the bonuses to +skill damage and +elemental damage (and CC/CD/IAS/CDR) are no different than non-Ancient gear, and it’s really hard to get a piece of armor with the exact 4 (or 5) primary affixes you need. And a smart player is never going to give up say, +13% damage to their char’s main skill just to add +200 mainstat, or +23 All Res.
So no, in my semi-expert PTR-tester opinion, the prospect of upgrading to Ancient Items is no reason to put off playing now. In fact, playing now could be a good preparation, if you build up a bunch of crafting materials. Crafting and gambling can pop Ancients same as monster drops, and while you can’t save up 10,000 shards for massive gambling, you can do that with crafting. A crafted Ancient Weapon with a good roll will jump your damage up hugely (Normal to Ancient is around 2300 to 2800 for 1H, and 3000 to 4000 for 2H), so unless your build *requires* some specific legendary weapon, crafting an Ancient weapon will give you a huge DPS boost, making for faster farming as you try to find an Ancient weapon you really want.
Click through for some ancient items galleries, to whet your appetite.
My PTR DH’s gear, excerpted from the Ancient mega-article.
Collection of Ancient Weapons, all found on the PTR. Mostly bows/xbows, since most of the testing was with my DH. My PTR Monk has played a fair amount and is pretty strong; able to steamroll T6, but he’s still not found 2 Ancient Weapons, or one great Ancient Daibo to switch to. He’s still dual-wielding a 2750 1H ancient and a non-ancient 2450 Shard of Hate. Like I said, finding Ancient items to upgrade to, even in weapon slots, is pretty hard if you’ve got good rolls on your current gear.