So I just spent about 2 hours getting taught many lessons by Leoric. It's likely that this is due to a lack of skill (or w/e you wish to call it), but its possible that its a gear/loadout issue also. Well I'll let you decide Stats (52 DH) 13.8k Life 2500 Damage Loadout (Actives + Passives) EF-Covering Cluster Arrow-Shooting Stars EA-Screaming Skull Prep-Battle Scars Caltrops-Jagged Spikes SS-Lingering Fog Steady Aim Grenadier TA A few words...I ran into an invulnerable minions group early in Act 1 that prompted me to switch from my preferred Razor Disk Chakram to Cluster Arrow (worked great btw). The switch prompted me to pick up a passive to synergize with the aforementioned Cluster Arrow selection. Interestingly, I haven't seen the giant grenade drop one time while dying against...anyone. Whlie it makes little difference I admit I was dissapointed as I was looking forward to telling the filth to bleed on my way out. In any event its been a change of pace and I haven't switch back to my normal loadout. I'm 2xHXB about 125 DPS each wearing a fairly super crappy Thief's Hood (59 Intel, 3% Life, 9%MF, socket) with a Square Topaz in it now since it seems like I'll be farming Act 1 for a while until either I level up my skills or my gear (both?) or acquire enough mats to go gamble at the smithy again. But perhaps there is something very obvious that I'm missing (L2P is a viable response to this). If there is a thread I've overlooked pertaining to "expected values" feel free to point me in the direction. In the meantime I'll start a WD I'm curious how it plays. Apologies for length and thanks in advance. tldr; Hell SK kicking my behind. 13.8k life 2.5k damage no SS passive. Is it my gear or me?