Patch 1.0.4 Pipeline for Information Released


News has finally hit regarding Diablo III’s patch 1.0.4. This is more of  a… sneak peak of a sneak peak. The pipeline for the information is the following:

The Diablo III developers have been hard at work on some exciting new features and updates for the game. Many of you have asked for more details, and we’re busily preparing several developer blogs filled with information on what’s coming in patch 1.0.4. In the meantime, here’s an overview of the information we’re planning to share here on the Diablo III community site in the not-too-distant future.

Please keep in mind that this list isn’t set in stone, but it should provide a useful preview of what we’ll be revealing in the days ahead.

  • System Changes, by Wyatt Cheng
    • Senior Technical Game Designer Wyatt Cheng is preparing a high-level summary of some of the system changes planned for 1.0.4.
  • Legendary Item Improvements, by Andrew Chambers
    • Senior Game Designer Andrew Chambers is working on a blog detailing all the ways we’re making Legendary items stand out.
  • Magic Find Update, by Jay Wilson
    • Following up on earlier discussions, Game Director Jay Wilson will be providing an update on how Magic Find is evolving in patch 1.0.4.
  • Class Changes, by Wyatt Cheng
    • Wyatt will also be providing a preview of the changes we’ll be making for each class in 1.0.4 (and the philosophy behind those changes).
  • Patch Notes, by Lylirra
    • Of course, this is all building up to the actual patch 1.0.4 release, and we’ll be releasing the full patch notes shortly before the update goes live.

We’re also planning to run some interviews and developer chats surrounding patch 1.0.4, and we’ll be sharing those on the Diablo III front page. Be on the lookout, as we’d love to get you involved in any live chats we host.

As always, your constructive feedback is very much appreciated. Stay tuned for the updates to follow!

It’s not certain as to whether or not these are in any particular chronological sequence, but you can expect the information in the “not too distant future,” adding more verbiage to their ever-growing list of time estimates. How does the community feel about patch 1.0.4? Is this the patch that will determine whether or not you’ll stick with the game? What are you hoping will be included in this patch?

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  1. Well… what left is there to say? Make or break. Here’s hoping…

    • Anyone else worried about the “Magic Find Update”? The community spammed 900 pages mostly with people not liking the same options or asking that they leave magic find alone entirely. The fact that it says MF is evolving means they most likely didn’t listen to the community, a problem they seem to have suffered from in the past.

      I won’t immediately dismiss this as terrible since we have zero details, but I’m hoping they have some unmentioned option they are going with instead of what they offered up in that magic find thread.

      • MF needs to be changed in multiplayer

        the way it is now, it’s one of the reasons not to play with other people

        • That was my first reaction, the only thing they need to do with mf is scale it with the number of people in a game.

  2. I think that the biggest news is that Jay Wilson will actually talk to the D3 fans.

    But seriously, this is as bad as a pre pre pre pre pre game show for the Superbowl. I love it, but come on Blizzard!

    • I think it’s obvious that they’ll build up the hype to destroy GW2 first with 1.04, second with MoP. GW2 online will be a ghost town in 3 months.

      • That maybe the plan but since GW2 is buy 2 play it will have zero effect in real terms. I mean all you need to do is drop a one off payment to get GW2, you dont need to spend a cent or a penny more than that.

        • It certainly has minimal impact on GW2’s box sales, you’re right.

          That wasn’t my point though.

          • I think its safe to say that the Diablo Devs do not come to work each morning saying: How can we destroy Guild Wars II but How can we make Diablo a better game.

          • The devs don’t. Execs do.

          • Alex…. Your posts are cringe worthy tbh.

            Diablo 3 wont have any effect on GW2…. As it is a complete seperate genre, and there are many GW1 fans.

            As for wow….. Well, they are radically different as well.

            Some developer blogs about Diablo 3 wont hype me up much now. They completely destroyed any fun I was having with 1.03, why in the hell would I decide not to play GW2 now….?

            But, ok… 😆

      • After decades of gaming I have come to the realization that games do not kill other games. Games kill themselves. Either because they are terrible or because support for it has ended or turned sour.

        GW2 has had people put in 60+ hours and they are still excited to log in any chance they get(stress test today). D3 has people frustrated when they log in and hoping their experience will be different with a lottery drop.

        Will people leave temporarily to play another game? Yes. But people return to good games. That’s why D2 has been played for 10 years, they come back to it. It is why I come back to old games like Star Control 2 or bust out my original Nintendo to play Metroid or Zelda.

        • Funny, that was the same experience I had with D2. 🙄

        • That’s a good point, but history says: the games that try to compete with Blizzard all end up as ghost towns. Whether they are good games or not, whether blizzard destroyed them or they destroyed themselves – I don’t know.

          • History is written right now. And the ceo-duo (Kottick and friend) may well have changed the future prospects of the company with their decisions on how to run it already.

      • and Borderlands 2 will be out a week before MoP

        so D3 will be a ghost town 2 weeks afterwards 🙄

        • It’s hard to gauge how many people are playing a non-MMO like D3 where everything is instanced – unlike an MMO like GW where ghost town effect is very obvious.

          But I think you’re wrong. BL is a popular series but not anywhere Diablo’s level. MoP won’t prohibit people from playing Diablo because it’s not a competitor, but there will likely be a few people leaving Diablo completely for it, which is natural.

          • You can’t have it both ways. MoP is an MMO, and GW is an MMO. But you say, D3 will make GW a ghost town, but MoP won’t sap D3 players away. Which is it?

            And you honestly think BL2 isn’t going to decimate D3’s players, just wait and see. BL1 sold 4m copies in the first year of release, which is pretty substantial for a new IP. I’d expect at least that if not more for BL2. I know myself and everyone I know that is still playing D3, will be leaving when BL2 comes out. Possibly for good, unless 1.4 is executed well.

      • GW2 a ghost town after 3 months? lol i REALLY doubt it.

        Now if you were talking about Diablo 3…… 😕

      • GW2 servers will be a ghost town? You’re one of those silly, Blizzard can do no wrong and will get ALL THE CUSTOMERS fanatics, aren’t you? 1.04 will not affect the player base of GW2 in any way.

  3. not-too-distant = “the new soon” 😀

    • not-too-distant future™

    • NTDF for short. 😉

      • National Tournament “Diablo Forza!” ^^

        edit: Newsreporter: “Held right at the moment at Blizzard, Irvine. Tickets are up to 1.5k for middleseats. But you can also rent a webstream for a cheap 149$.”

    • Thumbs up for detailing the reasoning behind planned changes in advance! Sounds like they’re investing at least some work into something that doesn’t directly translate into monetary profit.

      The multitude of pre-pre-pre-announcement-updates, probably released in loose sequence over several weeks, makes it sound like the patch won’t hit until 2014 though. =/

  4. I remember Jay Wilson mention that he considers D3 to be a disaster if pvp does not come by end of 2012.

    Sadly, that is slowly becoming a reality as there is no way patch 1.10 is going to happen anytime soon, since patch 1.0.4 will hit the servers mid September estimate.

    • On the other hand, mid-september is a kind of estimate that has been pulled out of someone’s ass and they still have about 5 months of time. A lot can happen in that time.

      • Why do people always ask for a link, if someone says that “he remembers” or uses iirc/if i remember correctly? The expression itself says that there’s no source at hand… 🙄

        edit: By the way: I remember the same as DeathLight, but also can’t provide a source. But iirc, it was in an interview (videostream) taken/shown a few days to weeks before release.

    • We’re awaiting patch 1.0.4
      PvP is scheduled for 1.1

      There is no need to go through 1.0.5, 1.0.6, 1.0.7, etc to get to 1.1

      This isn’t incrementing decimals, it’s software versioning and takes the form of Major.Minor.Revision

      So, we could get 1.0.4 and then go straight to 1.1 (unless 1.0.5 has been announced and I missed it).

      • Yep the patch numbers are meaningless outside of being info to let the game/players check that the game is upto date. BTW This is the only reason the number increases as then it just need to run a is the number bigger in the patch file if yes download and install check.

    • If Jay Trollson is a real man.Witch we all know its not true.He have to leave right now.Take the responsibility Trollson.Don’t hide like a lil’girl.

  5. “Magic Find Update, by Jay Wilson”

    Guess he wasn’t fired yet.

    • The guy’s produced the fastest selling game of all time. I don’t think he’s going to be fired any time soon.

      • he didn’t do it. Diablo 2 did.

        • That’s probably true, but I doubt his bosses/the Blizzard/Activision accountants care that much either way.

        • Nope. D3 sold MORE than D2. What does that tell ya?

          • Many of the millions of WoW players bought it too. Probably to get a free WoW subscription.

          • He meant that D3 sold a lot because of the D2 legacy and not because of JW.

          • That a lot of filesharers had fun with D2, too?

          • That we live in the year 2012 where gaming has become much more mainstream and blockbustery.

          • @Play – are you kidding me right now? You have it backwards… you bought WoW at $15/month to get D3 for free, NOT the other way around. It actually cost A LOT MORE than just a $60 box copy of D3. And we know that WoW annual pass sales account for 1.2M of the 10.3M total. So unless D2 magically sold 9.1M copies, your point is baseless.

            So you don’t even understand how the WoW annual pass works.

            Most disturbing, 10 people +1’ed you. Just goes to show how useless the +1 system is when you consider the voting populous…

          • @RyTEK
            Yeah, I got that wrong. I know nothing about WoW.

            Could the high sales figures be due to many disillusioned WoW players, who didnt buy the expensive annual pass and instead puchased D3?

            I still feel D2 reputation did far more for D3 sales than Jay Wilson.

          • I dont know how many copies where sold of D3 or D2 but i just dont think that could be true….

            D3 might have had more sales the 1st day or week of release than d2 had the 1st day or week but D2 is STILL in stores today and has been selling well for 10 years now, that alone says that D3 only sold well because of D2.

            If you really want to measure how good a game is see how long its been selling in stores, Diablo is probably THE longest selling game in History! What other game is still on store shelves that is over 10 years old? NONE!

          • Half of those are bot accounts.

          • Gaming is far more mainstream than it was a decade ago, and Diablo 3 built so much hype based off of D2. Don’t be fooled into thinking D3 is a better game because it sold more, because that is far from the truth.

      • He did nothing! It’s all about the NAME! He pee on that name.

    • Why should they fire Jay Wilson? He just does what he is told by the higher-ups who plan the grand scheme of things.

      Did you notice that anyhing that could qualify as “end game” has been cut out, changed or nerfed before release? Powerful legendaries, mystic, rune DROPS (which you don’t need to farm as items anymore), PvP.

      Espcecially PvP is a big deal because it would actually be “end game” for many people, and Blizzard doesn’t want everyone stick with free to play Diablo 3 when WoW Pandaria is around the corner. We are currently playing Diablo 3 “lite” until Pandaria is out.

    • amazing avatar!

  6. I have a high hopes that all changes are gonna be a good ones, so much pressure on Blizz lately that they have to deliver and please customers 8)

    • Please some forum whiners you mean.

      … Forgetting the already legendary phrase…”and then we doubled it …” was also the result of idiots running around saying “it is too easy”.

      Isn’t it Flux …?

      If they touch the present day Legendary system with ALL MIGHTY Legendaries they’ll screw their complete trading system to the ground…

      Or … How a tiny community of forum idiots will be responsible for some total screw ups in game design.

      History of mmo’s make a great example of these kinds of community idiots.

      “we do not want cross server play … Because we believe in a server community …”

      Yea right… Dead on launch as a result in War, Sw tor etc…

      “… And then we doubled it”…what a legendary video.

      Of course the blizzard haters already are laughing all the way now.

      Show some backbone Wilson.

      • Go away Orc please, whining overload..

      • You actually made some good points here. And yes, I’m totally aware that bigger numbers doesn’t mean better, more interesting gameplay. That’s part of the reason I’m saying that some gamesystems are botched by design.

        For the itemsystem, the change of the elemental resistance-part from the d2-style fixed values to a sacred-style incremental curve is the part that botched the itemsystem most. (Not to speak of using the same principal mechanics for armor.)

        In Sacred, the solution to the downside was, having a new set of the same unique- and setitems every few levels, featuring slightly higher stats, while making resistances a baseattribute of items, delivering only indirect control over one’s ammount of elemental resistances through itemaffixes.

        For Sacred, this worked surprisingly well. But the same won’t work on D3, as they’ve designed it with a fixed growthrate for characters set. It could be in a variant, where Blizz could implement a feature to upgrade found sets/legendarys in level, while also dropping the ammount of resistances needed for decent protection, though. But I’m still unsure if it would really work.

        edit: Thinking further about it, “closed game design meets open game mechanics” could well be said to be the core of what’s wrong with the game.

  7. “System changes”? That’s pretty vague. Anyone care to explain what this might mean?

    • Yeah curious too. I hope it means, that my more than enough pc is capable of putting some steady 60 fps on the screen in stead of drops..

      • Exactly, I am sick of microstuttering and fps drops on x4 phenom ii 965 be with r7970 lightning :(((. It turns out that game works better on ancient hardware LOL :).

    • Probably some new end-game content, since that is not mentioned elsewhere in the post while it should definitely be part of this update.

      • I think the others’ prediction is more plausible, though. It will probably be something regarding performance and/or lag

        • No, in game developer terms a system is typically a set of mechanics that form a feature of sorts, like dyes, skills and so on.

          In other words, some high-level systems will change in 1.04, as previously mentioned by the devs.

    • I think its the auction house changes and the color changes of health potions / gems / tomes on the ground.

  8. Buy a SSD. Problem solved.

    • No joke. I did that about 6 weeks ago…BIG TIME improvement. The demons run by so fast now I can barely hit them! 😉

    • well im running diablo3 on a ssd (intel postville) since launch and still have spikes/fps issues. Bought a new samsung 830 2 weeks ago too see if there is any difference, but no 🙁 . So dont advertise to everyone that a ssd will solve all the problems cause it aint.. Ancient hardware is running D3 beter than my pc atm 🙁

      • It’s the fanboy kiddie age, where the zealots think every problem is everyones but the developers fault.

    • Trouble is i have d3 installed on samsung 830 ssd and it still microstutters. It has nothing to do with loading assets and there are countless threads all over the internet about it. There are people with even more powerful rigs than mine and they get stuttering and frame drops too. The game’s engine is f…ed up and it looks like it has been since beta times. It was reported back then (9-10 months ago) and has not been dealt with since then sadly :(.

      It doesn’t mention any technical improvements in that preview of a preview of 1.0.4 but I do really hope this stuff gets fixed.

    • This is rubbish the only thing a SSD will do is shave a few secs of load times due to your computer being able to copy data into your RAM faster after this there no difference between a SSD or a HDD until you ethier run out of RAM space (shouldn’t happen unless there a memory leak) or you reach another load point (where more data gets copied into your RAM). The thing is if you really want to improve performance get some good DDR3 RAM.

      • Hey i run a really powerful rig, no need to worry about my memory really :). There are pple who run Battlefield 3 in ultra on 1900 x 1200 and have stuttering in D3. The problem got at least aknowledged by Blizzard’s bug fighters but only after milion threads putting the whole company to a shame all over the internet….

  9. Its takes half a year to release at patch….. *sigh*

  10. The game can’t be fixed for me anymore, unless it will be like Diablo 2 (which it won’t) so I’ll stick with dota 2. Too bad I spent 60 Euro’s for this game.

  11. No new end-game content? Gah.

  12. “what we’ll be revealing in the days ahead”

    means by end of next week

    so this is very good news

    I wasn’t hopeful before, but now I think we may see the patch by mid Sept; maybe even end of Aug

    • There are 4 blogs on the way, I believe they will post one each week and then the patch next month.

      • Well TBH its depends on when they are expecting to release the patch if its ~1 month away by there estimates then yes expect ~one a week. If 2 months away then ~one every 2 weeks etc.

  13. Last chance for me, I quit the game about a month ago.. quite disappointed… If this isnt good enough of a change im giving up on D3 and probably blizzard all together.

    • Again, how can you say you quit a game which simply resides for free access on your hard disk and is only a click away without needing attunements …

      What does quit even mean ? Not playing it as a life sentence … ?

      Even I play SC2 now and then and I am not a fan of this type of RTS…

      SO explain quit .

      • I’ll try to explain from my understanding and usage of the word “quit” when it comes to a video game.

        If I say “quit” – I mean as I’m not playing it on a daily basis anymore, which will happen to D3 for me if patch 1.0.4 don’t deliver. To me D3 has been a bit of a let down, but hopefully this patch will change it.

        Even if it doesn’t, I’ll probably pick it back up for a time sometime in the future because it’s by no means a bad game, but there are others I play regularly that I enjoy more.

        I’ve been playing HoN quite steady for 2 years or so. I had a brake after Cataclysm came out when I wanted to give WoW a second chance, sadly that was a bit of a dissapointment too, so I started playing HoN again and still do. I never “quit” HoN.

        D3 on the other hand, I don’t see myself going back to for an extended period of time as it is in its current state, which is why I see no problem in saying that I might “quit it”.

        • What do you mean that ‘it’s by no means a bad game’?

          Are you even alive? The game is an absolute disaster. Probably the worst thing i’ve wasted my money on, ever. The Acti-Bliz fat pigs have the RMAH solely set up to garner as much money out of unsuspecting fans as they can.

          User reviews are so low it’s ridiculous, Player numbers are dwindling faster than people can write up whining comments on this website (i’ve got it on good authority that there are no more than 300,000 players left).

          D3 will be taken out of stroe within 12 months and only D2 will remain.

          • “What do you mean that ‘it’s by no means a bad game’?

            Are you even alive? The game is an absolute disaster. Probably the worst thing i’ve wasted my money on, ever. The Acti-Bliz fat pigs have the RMAH solely set up to garner as much money out of unsuspecting fans as they can.

            User reviews are so low it’s ridiculous, Player numbers are dwindling faster than people can write up whining comments on this website (i’ve got it on good authority that there are no more than 300,000 players left).

            D3 will be taken out of store within 12 months and only D2 will remain.”

            If this is the worst thing you’ve ever wasted money on in your life, you’ve lived a sheltered life with no fun or real experiences (and only one regret? Really?). Ever spent a single dollar on alcohol, anywhere? It’s a waste of money every time, a quick consumable that’s pissed out a few hours later, but that doesn’t stop me from buying $100 bottles of imported Single Malt Scotch from time to time, or blowing money on friends at the bar when it’s their birthday. Alcohol is merely one example. I won’t get into the opposite sex and the misadventures you can get into to waste money on there. Or junk/fast food. It’s these hyperbole statements from both sides of the fence that ruin the forums and comment sections of blogs alike.

            I would love to know what your “good authority” is, since as much as I hate Thrall’s constant frothing at the mouth comments of “10.000.000 SOLD!”, I think the game is still basically fun, and there are clearly enough people playing that care enough to want to see changes made to warrant the constant “whining comments”.

            The game itself? How long have you played? If you’ve gotten more than 100 hours of play time (which is easy if you have at least one character in Inferno) then really, you’ve gotten more than your money’s worth. An average (not even amazing) RPG can hope to occupy you for 60-80 hours, where you complete the story and move on to something else. Every (console) game costs roughly $60 at launch, and most of them don’t have huge ridiculous amounts of replay value or PvP like the Call of Duty series to keep people playing for a full year, let alone 10 (or even 5). The ‘gameplay’ in D3 is FUN, they just need to work out some very large kinks in order to keep people coming back a year from now. The current grind for near impossible upgrades for ridiculous gearchecks in the difficulty THEY MADE TO KILL US is just a little monotonous at this time. We need more.

            As someone that loved making offbeat builds in D2 that utilized underused skills or uniques but could still beat Hell (and you can look up my threads in the D2 SPF Pat/Mat compilation thread), I am definitely let down by the current state of Legendaries, skill balancing, and general build diversity. There are A LOT of changes I want to see, that I want to make this game better. But they’ve admitted that they recognize there’s a problem. And like any addict can tell you, that’s the first step to making changes. So have hope. As I said in a reply later in this comment section:

            “There will always be hope my friend; it may take time, but if you’re patient, you *may* be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime, rather than outright dejecting the game, try playing something else for a while, just like we all did over the years between the times we played D2. I fully plan on playing Borderlands 2 like crazy when it comes out, and have a ton of friends waiting to play Black Ops 2 with, but I know I will eventually come back to D3.”

          • friedbananazzzz basically summed it up.

            D3 is not what I hoped it would be (at least not yet), but I’ve had fun with it for 100+ hours, which is more than I can say for most titles I purchase.

            Going on about how it’s the worst 60$ you’ve ever spent is just laughable. That, or you haven’t purchased many games in your life. To me, 100 hours worth of fun for 60$ is a good deal.

            That said, ofc I want D3 to occupy me for thousands of hours, not just the mere 100. That wasn’t the point though.

      • seriously ?

        now you’re really reaching

        “quit” is obvious

        how does a smoker quit smoking when a pack of cigarettes is only a store away ?

        how does an alcoholic quit drinking when a drink is only a store away ?

        how does a fat person quit junk food when junk is only a store away ?

        come on, if you’re going to make arguments in defense of D3 at least make logical ones

        people have quit the game

        accept it

  14. If they mean randomized maps as they were in d2 by System Changes, I’m gonna hug somebody at Blizzard.

    • Yeah more randomized maps would be great.

    • D3 feels incredibly linear. Each location feels exactly the same every time you visit it. The only thing that seems to ever change is maybe some random event spawns here or there.

      I’m very impressed by the system Path of Exile put together, with randomized maps that drop and can be basically anything.

      • Yeah well, no one really seem to care much about the random maps as I read the raging bulls on the forums here or on bnet, but let’s say that all our wishes about itemization would come true, I’d still have concerns of how long could I play the game when I basically just run around on the same maps over and over again. Sadly the random dungeons aren’t that random at all: you can easily guess which direction to choose if you just want to skip the current level.
        The random events were fun for the first time, but they don’t really offer anything if you complete them more and more.

  15. You know what ? The truth is that i don’t really care anymore.
    Jay Trollson fked up the whole franchise with their Greedyvision partners.
    Im not a stupid “milk-able” kid, i won’t pay for gear checks… forget about it.

    Jay Trollson i want to put something in your a….sss but first … ? Guess what?

    Im gonna double it!

  16. Unbelievably sad. While it could all theoretically be great, it won’t be because there is NO MANDATE to make this game great. The only mandate is to make people keep paying, and I suppose news of “system changes” and ” will keep people playing … for now.

    Until the patch goes live and it is a disaster.

    And speaking of deadly fluffy bunnies, shouldn’t Legendary Items stand out anyway? Isn’t that the point of them? Don’t we have 10 years of farming Uniques in D2 and the examples set by Uniques in other RPG’s to help us understand that LEGENDARIES MUST STAND OUT? It seems like this team was really trying to re-invent the wheel without any concept whatsoever of what a wheel looks like or does, and in complete ignorance that the wheel has been in use for centuries.

    • Yeah the name LEGENDARY for me at least suggests something even more powerful than unique and yet we have got so called “browns” (not me coining the name) in the game. Itemwise game has moved lightyears back. I do understand that the new devs tried to make it differently from D2 to maybe show to the world that they are worthy but as they say different is not better, better is better…

      It can also be the case that they were so pushed to the wall with the deadlines and the parent company demanding a release that all the systems were not fully developed and fixing it was postponed till after the release. It looks like it, does it not?

    • Yes, thats the point! They had no real game concept for D3. Or better say, they thought they had, but a really bad one, thats for sure now. THIS is the problem. They made a game where the main goal is farming and AH is the alpha and omega. Well, ok then. But dont tell me that though it couldnt be done better! Where is some fantasy, where are some new cool game mechanics, randomization, smart systems of whatsoever?? D3 is sooo poor in this way in comparsion to other RPGs. Did they think the Nephalem Valor will solve everything? I think, they miss some fantasy-freak devs and lets say fantasy lore passion… D3 is just a good crafted game, but has no “heart” and no “soul”… its just dull farming

    • “Unbelievably sad. While it could all theoretically be great, it won’t be because there is NO MANDATE to make this game great. The only mandate is to make people keep paying, and I suppose news of “system changes” and ” will keep people playing … for now.”

      Where’s that second option in quotes there?

      But really, while I completely recognize that things (mostly Legendaries/general itemization and skill balance) are really shitty right now, how can you say that things won’t improve? It’s been three months. We haven’t even seen an expansion yet, and what do you consider D2 v1.10? It was years later, and Blizzard had long since stopped caring about making money off the franchise, but the game was completely revitalized.

      There will always be hope my friend; it may take time, but if you’re patient, you *may* be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime, rather than outright dejecting the game, try playing something else for a while, just like we all did over the years between the times we played D2. I fully plan on playing Borderlands 2 like crazy when it comes out, and have a ton of friends waiting to play Black Ops 2 with, but I know I will eventually come back to D3.

  17. Changes to MF? I guess they are going to nerf the mf we get from killing elites in inferno 🙁 It was the only time I actually started to see any rare items 🙁 I had played the game from Normal to Inferno act1, and only saw 1 rare drop from a boss. Obviously still some bugs out there. I saw more rares in inferno with the elite stacking mf modifier in 30 minutes than i saw playing the game for 60 hours! (which was maybe 20)

    • Daaaaaaaamn! I read that part wrong. When I saw “MF” I for some reason thought droprates. As in after 1.0.4 it will actually be possible to find sets and uniques, ehhm browns, in addition to them being viable ofc.

      Can’t really say I care about how MF will change really, but I do find the swapping annoying, so as long as that ends I’m good with it…

    • MF isn’t the same as NV. They’re talking about the hot-swapping of MF items just before killing a boss or pack, which they made a post about a little while ago.

  18. Well they wasted all their time developing the explosions, rolling fog, and 20 foot archways with golden light flooding half the screen, when they could have been working on items.

  19. People do realize the game hasn’t even been out 3 months right? 5/15/12-8/8/12.

    Whine more.

    I see this patch hitting before MoP, and probably closer to September 1st. I also see PvP as not being much further behind. Stop being unrealistic pessimists. If they’re about to blog about all these changes then things are more than likely getting fairly polished if they feel comfortable enough to reveal the direction these changes are going to take.

    • With the D3 community I think what we are seeing is a parallel that is occurring in real life. The polarization of the community. Everything as become an either/or proposition. And the positions are taken with such drama. I’ve been guilty of it myself at times. Its not healthy. Thats been my personal goal in life over the past year…do not take dichotomous positions. See the whole issue, the person, or whatever the issue that I’m dealing with.

    • “People do realize the game hasn’t even been out 3 months right? ”

      and in development for over 4 years
      and an 8 month beta

      that’s the problem people have
      so much of what we’re complaining about should have been caught and fixed during that time

      not after release

  20. Well said FruitLord and thumbs up to a fellow Star Control 2 Fan :mrgreen:
    I don’t think 1.04 or even the PVP patch will change the game enough to make it a “return to” game for me. D3 needs drastic changes/improvements that no patch can bring. Its only hope in my opinion is the planned expansions and only if it can bring back the “magic” feel of wanting to play the game again and again after completing it 100’s of times.

    • Are you able to define that “magic”? I mean other than better legendaries, what made u wanna play D2 more than D3? I think the first step to improvement is properly defining the problems – “magic” doesn’t cut it.

      For my part, I am constantly drawn to the game, currently takign a break from inferno and leveling my other chars, and it’s still fun.

  21. With or without these changes, I’m still playing the hell out of the game for some reason. Guess I’m crazy!!! But I appreciate the feedback the passionate and sometimes angry and sometimes irrational and sometimes idiotic fans give, because making this game even better sounds pretty good to me!

  22. At this point anything helps I guess but I doubt this will make a huge difference like Blizzard is hoping.

  23. …and not one mention of multiplayer or endgame content. Fail.

  24. FINALLY! A glimmer of hope on the horizon. They can still screw this up in two ways though. 1.) taking too long to roll out changes that were needed a month ago. 2.) The actual substances of their blog doesn’t address the changes we need to keep going with the game. or in other words they take the stance of “HEY look we are doing SOMETHING just not what you want because we still think we know what’s best for you.”

  25. I’m already sticking to the game, the patch will just make me stick more and I’m also not starting HC until it.

    I’m mostly looking forward to:

    1. Better legendaries
    2. Fixed crafting
    3. Some skill improvements to vary the builds more
    4. More possible end-game mechanics AKA NV

  26. I’ve been playing Monster Hunter Tri instead of D3 for the past week or two. Better bosses, better items, better combat.

    I’m hopeful this patch will improve things. I like both games, but D3 is not currently compelling enough to grab my attention.

  27. Lol “We will add colors to make legendary items stand out.”

    And Jay Wilson did not get fired. The most incompetent game developer or extremely competent game ruiner in history of games.

    “We can’t have any fun!” – Jay Wilson

  28. The Portuguese version of this new, has come with some different text.

    “Chance de Encontrar Itens Mágicos e Níveis de Excelência, por Jay Wilson
    Jay Wilson (Diretor de Jogo) atualizará a comunidade a respeito da Chance de Encontrar Itens Mágicos, e também revelará e explicará os detalhes do Sistema de Excelência, uma nova funcionalidade do patch 1.0.4.”

    Shortly after they edited and removed the part about “Níveis de Excelencia”.

    What that means?

    A google translate about the above text:

    “Chance to Find Magic Items and Levels of Excellence, by Jay Wilson
    Jay Wilson (Game Director) will update the community about the Chance to Find Magic Items, and also reveal and explain the details of the System of Excellence, a new feature in patch 1.0.4.”

  29. Maybe I’ll come back to d3 but there’s not too many chances, so far they didn’t fix anything really important so I doubt they will now.

  30. Gah, double posting a comment/reply and not caring ’cause it’s 3am, I’m sleep deprived ATM, and I want to be heard like everyone else.

    “What do you mean that ‘it’s by no means a bad game’?

    Are you even alive? The game is an absolute disaster. Probably the worst thing i’ve wasted my money on, ever. The Acti-Bliz fat pigs have the RMAH solely set up to garner as much money out of unsuspecting fans as they can.

    User reviews are so low it’s ridiculous, Player numbers are dwindling faster than people can write up whining comments on this website (i’ve got it on good authority that there are no more than 300,000 players left).

    D3 will be taken out of store within 12 months and only D2 will remain.”

    If this is the worst thing you’ve ever wasted money on in your life, you’ve lived a sheltered life with no fun or real experiences (and only one regret? Really?). Ever spent a single dollar on alcohol, anywhere? It’s a waste of money every time, a quick consumable that’s pissed out a few hours later, but that doesn’t stop me from buying $100 bottles of imported Single Malt Scotch from time to time, or blowing money on friends at the bar when it’s their birthday. Alcohol is merely one example. I won’t get into the opposite sex and the misadventures you can get into to waste money on there. Or junk/fast food. It’s these hyperbole statements from both sides of the fence that ruin the forums and comment sections of blogs alike.

    I would love to know what your “good authority” is, since as much as I hate Thrall’s constant frothing at the mouth comments of “10.000.000 SOLD!”, I think the game is still basically fun, and there are clearly enough people playing that care enough to want to see changes made to warrant the constant “whining comments”. (in reply to someone else:) How can you say that things won’t improve? It’s been three months. We haven’t even seen an expansion yet, and what do you consider D2 v1.10? It was years later, and Blizzard had long since stopped caring about making money off the franchise, but the game was completely revitalized.

    The game itself? How long have you played? If you’ve gotten more than 100 hours of play time (which is easy if you have at least one character in Inferno) then really, you’ve gotten more than your money’s worth. An average (not even amazing) RPG can hope to occupy you for 60-80 hours, where you complete the story and move on to something else. Every (console) game costs roughly $60 at launch, and most of them don’t have huge ridiculous amounts of replay value or PvP like the Call of Duty series to keep people playing for a full year, let alone 10 (or even 5). The ‘gameplay’ in D3 is FUN, they just need to work out some very large kinks in order to keep people coming back a year from now. The current grind for near impossible upgrades for ridiculous gearchecks in the difficulty THEY MADE TO KILL US is just a little monotonous at this time. We need more. We all get it. Blizzard gets it. They want to make changes. They WILL make changes.

    As someone that loved making offbeat builds in D2 that utilized underused skills or uniques, but could still beat Hell (and you can look up my threads in the D2 SPF Pat/Mat compilation thread), I am definitely let down by the current state of Legendaries, skill balancing, and general build diversity. There are A LOT of changes I want to see, that I want to make this game better. But they’ve admitted that they recognize there’s a problem. And like any addict can tell you, that’s the first step to making changes. So have hope. As I said in a reply somewhere else in this comment section:

    “There will always be hope my friend; it may take time, but if you’re patient, you *may* be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime, rather than outright dejecting the game, try playing something else for a while, just like we all did over the years between the times we played D2. I fully plan on playing Borderlands 2 like crazy when it comes out, and have a ton of friends waiting to play Black Ops 2 with; but I know I will eventually come back to D3.”

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